tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post1503260236469959363..comments2024-03-29T02:10:02.587-07:00Comments on Bad UFOs: Skepticism, UFOs, and The Universe: Invasion of the Pod People - My review of David Jacobs' new book "Walking Among Us"Robert Sheafferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-43333644159341079622016-05-17T13:33:04.352-07:002016-05-17T13:33:04.352-07:00Wasn't Jacob's PhD thesis his history of t...Wasn't Jacob's PhD thesis his history of the UFO phenomenon, or movement? It was later published as a popular book. Hardly the kind of PhD who'd want to conduct a thorough investigation, I'd think.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06545533312833452821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-15308233957496670172016-05-09T16:21:30.603-07:002016-05-09T16:21:30.603-07:00If there were all these aliens here, they would ha...If there were all these aliens here, they would have to have a huge infrastructure--either on the land, or in the oceans, or in the sky. The equipment would have to be repaired and resupplied, the aliens must be fed and educated, etc. I know of no hard evidence for any of this. I hold to the belief that the serious sightings of UFO's are secret military aerospace craft.Transpoewrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12540890121217814370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-8307216216944169842016-05-09T10:29:57.140-07:002016-05-09T10:29:57.140-07:00Rupelstiltskin does sound kind of Pleadian doesn&#...Rupelstiltskin does sound kind of Pleadian doesn't it?busterggihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02146221182670363053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-29787682947673254152016-05-09T10:29:10.819-07:002016-05-09T10:29:10.819-07:00"· “Insectalin” leaders, who are over 6 feet ..."· “Insectalin” leaders, who are over 6 feet tall and look like a praying mantis.<br />· “Grays,” large and small, who “only communicate telepathically.”<br />· “Reptilian hybrids,” with “snake-like” heads and mottled skin"<br /><br />Oddly enough evolution on vastly different alien worlds somehow produced bad sci-fi versions of Terran life. I guess there's no reason to look for alien life as its just like terrestrial life.busterggihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02146221182670363053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-68777105554501648542016-05-09T08:26:11.823-07:002016-05-09T08:26:11.823-07:00Chris, yes, that is the same Jacobs. On my "h...Chris, yes, that is the same Jacobs. On my "historical" page on debunker.com, I have a latter that Klass wrote to Jacobs in 1976, in which he questions Jacobs' objectivity in his "UFO Controversy" book.<br /><br />http://www.debunker.com/historical/PJK_Jacobs_HistoryBook.pdfRobert Sheafferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-75539214722190267352016-05-09T08:01:50.707-07:002016-05-09T08:01:50.707-07:00In 1975 Jacobs published "THE UFO CONTROVERSY...In 1975 Jacobs published "THE UFO CONTROVERSY IN AMERICA", which I thought was quite a scholarly, fairly neutral UFO book. I read this never realising that it had been, essentially, his PhD thesis from the Univ of Wisconsin. I forget where I first read this news, but found it difficult to believe at first. (Is it in fact true?).<br /><br />So we have a UFO writer gaining a PhD on the strength of a history of ufology in the USA! It must have been several years after this that Jacobs began his 'downward spiral' into the depths of abductionism and abductees. It is a very sad decline and makes Jacobs an almost unique figure in ufology. It is akin to, but quite different from, the 'conspiracy syndrome' affecting so many ufologists, in that there seems no cure in prospect for sufferers. Once you are infected, that's it. <br /><br />I still recall him predicting, in 1994 in London, that the truth about alien abductions, would be made officially known around the turn of the century.<br /><br /> <br /><br />cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-77425502398545407752016-05-08T15:33:35.761-07:002016-05-08T15:33:35.761-07:00Points taken, gents.
Which makes things altogethe...Points taken, gents.<br /><br />Which makes things altogether a bit sadder than I had hoped. So it goes.The Duke of Mendozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14335501899298333878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-63472695945473072016-05-08T12:04:33.376-07:002016-05-08T12:04:33.376-07:00Jacobs was an invited speaker at this year's I...Jacobs was an invited speaker at this year's International UFO Congress in Arizona. His talk was well-received, as was his participation in panels. Offstage, he was constantly surrounded by and talking with admirers. I'd say that there are still a lot of people who take jacobs quite seriously.Robert Sheafferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-88019952526628456492016-05-08T10:40:03.228-07:002016-05-08T10:40:03.228-07:00"By way of comfort, I don't see anyone re..."By way of comfort, I don't see anyone remotely significant among ufologists, ahem "serious researchers", taking any notice of this busted flush."<br /><br />While I agree, my definition of "remotely significant" differs significantly from ufology in general. John Ventre and Pennsylvania MUFON awarded Jacobs a lifetime achievement honor. Others in the field have tied to defend his method of implanting hypnotic suggestions of multiple personality during his sessions of Emma Woods by arguing that she somehow consented to it. He is a regular at UFO conferences, podcasts, radio shows, and events. Jack Brewer (of the UFO Trail and <i>The Grays Have Been Framed</i>) has done a lot of good work on Jacobs, but I am not sure how many "serious researchers" have taken him on and I am not certain if anyone has refused to share the stage with him.<br /><br />The problem, though, is not simply with Jacobs. With the exception of <a href="http://bufora.org.uk/Hypnosis-Article.php" rel="nofollow">BUFORA</a>, "serious reseachers" continue to rely on hypnotic regression to uncover abduction scenarios - a method that is hardly a reliable means of uncovering actual experience. I might as well believe that people are being ritually abused by satanic cults (<i>Michelle Remembers</i>) as abducted by aliens or hubrids. <br /><br />I cannot foresee a time when "serious reseachers" within ufology will consult with people like Richard McNally, Susan Clancy (<i>Abducted</i>), or Elizabeth Loftus to understand abduction reports and memory. And the MUFON claims of scientific study are belied by the methods they use - when Dr. McNally is invited to a conference I might be more impressed. <br /><br />So we are left with Jacobs, Lamb, and Marden to convince us of the abduction phenomenon. Sometimes I think that Jacobs is there just so people can present Marden as bringing a more "nuanced approach" to the field. But I'm still waiting for the DNA results.<br /><br /><br /><br />Ericksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13489446146745522101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-8719859121755777612016-05-08T08:53:13.113-07:002016-05-08T08:53:13.113-07:00David Jacobs, meet Paul Bennewitz.David Jacobs, meet Paul Bennewitz.Ray Palm (Ray X)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01600471069648853966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-56786565073050136522016-05-07T14:15:39.929-07:002016-05-07T14:15:39.929-07:00First, congratulations on being able to wade your ...First, congratulations on being able to wade your way through this, er, eccentric volume.<br /><br />Your point about money, drivers' licences has been raised by Luis Gonzales, and probably others, privately. I say this because it underlines how blazingly obvious the question is, although alines being capable of anything could surely produce false credentials and set up an offshore cash stream etc etc—you just have to rationalize it. But that Jacobs has made no attempt whatever to ponder these problems is a trifle revealing, what?<br /><br />By way of comfort, I don't see anyone remotely significant among ufologists, ahem "serious researchers", taking any notice of this busted flush.The Duke of Mendozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14335501899298333878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-16404063963821483882016-05-07T13:15:20.864-07:002016-05-07T13:15:20.864-07:00Changelings etc.? Good spot.
Either Jacobs is som...Changelings etc.? Good spot.<br /><br />Either Jacobs is some sort of con man; or he's suffering a huge paranoid delusion that needs treating professionally. If it's the latter, then he has my sympathy.scherbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09183261254072952790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-36868238069914753922016-05-07T09:57:41.326-07:002016-05-07T09:57:41.326-07:00Robert,
Thanks for another good read. From a psy...Robert,<br /><br />Thanks for another good read. From a psychiatric standpoint, I always had a fascination with the alien abduction phenomena and the behind the door "machinations" needed for the continual survival for the belief.<br /><br />Recently I did a personal meta search of various psychiatric and psychology peer reviewed journals. I was basically seeing if I could tie in Capgras Delusion as one of the culprits for the abduction phenomena. This uncommon delusion (I've had three patient's diagnosed in the past treated at my facility) appeared to be a good fit with the "body snatcher" theme as the sufferer viewed family and friends as impostors who had been replaced by others. The term "others" tended to be a difficult task to uncover as most sufferers in their current state of paranoia refused to elaborate further.<br /><br />Unfortunately, I found nothing in the peer review journals to back up my rudimentary hypothesis. Yet, I still believe that Capgras may be a viable subset that may describe some facet of the "alien" hybrid meme. <br /><br />I've only a masters degree, yet I'm totally surprised that PhDs such as Jacobs would not go the needed extra mile to unravel a "mystery."Tim Heberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816425882305963295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-70339662674925133212016-05-07T05:57:02.079-07:002016-05-07T05:57:02.079-07:00Not so sure if he is leading the witness as much a...Not so sure if he is leading the witness as much as they are rationalizing the BS that they are concocting in their heads. Humans create patterns into things that make sense. We look at rocks on Mars that become squirrels, or dinosaur bones. It doesn't make it really true, but creates a false belief that Mars is littered with other life. Same thing here. His witnesses start to accept their concoction as valid and build from there. He buys it as truth and fails to investigate this false concocted story. Very sad! UFOxprthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881657319757081917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-56338130693018799542016-05-06T23:55:53.028-07:002016-05-06T23:55:53.028-07:00The whole time this person was on C2C, (As long as...The whole time this person was on C2C, (As long as I could stand listening to him!) I was screaming to the radio; "Where do they get their money? What happens when they get stopped by the police?" etc...Glad someone has asked the same questions. This person is painful to hear, and George N did not help....vonmazurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14765548332103795627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-958620883510037212016-05-06T21:10:39.326-07:002016-05-06T21:10:39.326-07:00HI!,I Think The Whole Alien-Hybrid Thing IS A Reha...HI!,I Think The Whole Alien-Hybrid Thing IS A Rehash of The Fairy Lore,Told With Space Ships And Alien Hybrids Instead of The Little Old Fairy Folk of Old!..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03778533792515571501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-70327472217077989072016-05-06T17:09:46.361-07:002016-05-06T17:09:46.361-07:00He is the very personification of the word, "...He is the very personification of the word, "nincompoop".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com