tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post1624410908627204161..comments2024-03-18T09:56:00.685-07:00Comments on Bad UFOs: Skepticism, UFOs, and The Universe: That "Citizen Hearing" on UFO "Disclosure"Robert Sheafferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-10049647039150093102014-11-26T07:13:03.424-08:002014-11-26T07:13:03.424-08:00Reading these comments I am amazed at the degree o...Reading these comments I am amazed at the degree of emotional commitment on both sides of the argument. Surely the issue is simple. There is a vast number of sightings of unidentified flying objects going back at least as far as WWII. The vast majority can be explained in mundane terms and a very small percentage remain unexplained. This means we do not know what those things were that were sighted. <br /><br />It is surely as silly to leap to the conclusion that they represent alien intelligence as it is (and it really IS) to dismiss them out of hand. Intelligent inquiry requires a skeptical approach AND an open mind, and rigid adherence to the facts.<br /><br />Well, we have one fact that is universally accepted, there have been a small number of sightings of objects which defy explanation, and a number of these sightings were made by highly trained observers. It behooves us to inquire intelligently into what these sightings might be, without prejudice and without blinkers. To see only our own answers without asking questions makes us blind.<br /><br />There is nothing absurd about the possibility of visitors from other planets except the way they are represented by so called 'skeptics'; nor is there any reason to suppose that unexplained sightings of flying objects must necessarily be sightings of alien spacecraft. The fact is, nobody knows what they are. Nobody.<br /><br />It is unedifying to see intelligent people categorizing themselves as 'believers' and 'skeptics'. Neither of these stances represents an intelligent approach. The only intelligent approach to the unknown is an open-minded attitude of inquiry.<br /><br />There was some very impressive testimony at the Citizen Hearing, by highly intelligent and qualified people, and while their conclusions may or may not be questionable, neither is it helpful or intelligent to scoff at them and dismiss them out of hand.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07560430171773626108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-63747731688880029442013-06-24T10:26:46.130-07:002013-06-24T10:26:46.130-07:00Whether you agree with the use of the word 'fa...Whether you agree with the use of the word 'fake' or not, the fact remains that the Disclosure hearing was not a genuine Congressional hearing, however hard the organizers worked to make it LOOK like one.Simon Swainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17590141562108105623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-36659466940717923862013-05-09T10:04:18.574-07:002013-05-09T10:04:18.574-07:00Greetings Cynthia,
That was an interesting read, a...Greetings Cynthia,<br />That was an interesting read, and certainly informative as regards a mindset of uncritical belief. <br /><br />I am impressed, to say the least. I take it one's wry amusement has a significance that unsubstantiated claims don't. Why is skepticism of UFO cover-up conspiracies equated with believing everything the government says? I understand that's a common tactic, but it's really odd to me.<br /><br />I think the tone of the remarks works against them- "sniff derisively" for example. Honestly, how can anyone not roll their eyes at a group of politicians being paid a nice chunk of change to listen to UFO reports? This is especially true when nothing is actually on the line. I said on Robert's FB page that I'd sit in those hearings for that much money.<br /><br />What exactly is a "serious" credential for a UFO witness? How about an unimpeachable credential? Outside of my mom, I can think of one person in U.S. history who I'd rate as unimpeachable, and he wasn't there.<br /><br />We have to come up with a new word for evidence. It's used in a different way in UFO circles. I half expect Inigo Montoya to jump in and say "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." Give me a ship and its pilot and I'll be on-board, so to speak.<br /><br />Ok, Cynthia, the following are not facts:<br />-members of Congress are terrified of tackling the subject<br />-flying saucers have been visiting Earth<br />-we've reverse-engineered alien technology<br />-our military has shot down alien ships<br />-hundreds of trillions of dollars are at stake<br />-witnesses are being snuffed and considered collateral damage<br />These are all supposition and theory. It doesn't make them automatically untrue, simply unproved.<br /><br />A curiosity among UFO speakers is the contention that things are being kept from the public. Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these speakers members of the public addressing other members of the public? A litany of folks delivers testimony during a well-publicized Citizen Hearing and I'm to believe information is being suppressed? It must be all governments right? I mean, the aliens surely have landed all over the place. Perhaps the strategic advantage of announcing alien contact didn't occur to the Soviets or Americans during the Cold War, to name one instance.<br /><br />I would like to make a request, to Cynthia and others of a like mind. Find one thing, just one, among the various claims made at the Citizen Hearing that doesn't sit right, that seems a little too far-fetched. Look into that claim. You have nothing to lose by doing so, and you might even be surprised.jozzcooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346278013676621644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-46679045708853174482013-05-06T07:51:34.182-07:002013-05-06T07:51:34.182-07:00Well organized reply and impressive website, thank...Well organized reply and impressive website, thanks for taking the time to make the case.<br /><br />Don't you notice a major internal inconsistency in your material. While lauding the credibility of astronaut mitchell's second-hand hearsay, you IGNORE his first-hand clear-cut assertions that neither he nor any astronaut he ever worked with described encountering UFOs in space? And yet the wbsite opens with the claim, "Today they're even being captured on satellite photos, viewable both on Google Earth and in images from the Space Shuttle. THIS IS A FACT: A great many of those vehicles are actually our own. And our tax dollars paid for them. "<br /><br />Now -- are Internet accounts astronaut in-space reports bogus, as Mitchell repeatedly states, or is your promo claim -- that there are credible reports on youtube -- bogus? How could both be true simo?<br /><br />Truly curious. Also, Otto Binder was a retired science fiction author at that time, impoverished, and crushed by family tragedies -- but not a journalist. Check his sad bio out.JimOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14320277948525739714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-65780170917290182182013-05-05T16:19:36.621-07:002013-05-05T16:19:36.621-07:00Joining in a bit late here, but... on April 21, ab...Joining in a bit late here, but... on April 21, above, the poster calling himself transpower said "The evidence we have is that there was, indeed, a craft there [at Rendlesham]".<br />We do? Can you tell us what it is, please?<br />Ian Ridpathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02067043936775601183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-46185677030717905832013-05-05T06:47:48.957-07:002013-05-05T06:47:48.957-07:00I continue to read, with wry amusement, an abundan...I continue to read, with wry amusement, an abundance of articles aggressively ridiculing the Citizen Hearing On Disclosure, followed by dismissive commentary from those who insist that there is no government suppression of information. <br /><br />Those individuals appear to base their opinion on a personal certainty that (A) Our government would NEVER lie to the people of this country, and (B) Nobody has proof that UFO's even exist. <br /><br />Next they sniff derisively and announce, as if they had discovered something dirty, that the panel is actually being paid a salary to conduct the hearing.<br /><br />So let's look at this...<br />The witnesses happen to have some pretty serious credentials, and they come bearing actual evidence. You remember actual evidence...that would be Freedom of Information documents, videotapes, photographs, signed, witnessed and notarized statements, hard copy radar reports, and first hand<br />witnesses with unimpeachable credentials. <br /><br />Organizers engaged the<br />services of several former members of Congress (a TRI-partisan group, Republican, Democrat and Libertarian) to conduct the hearing. Well thought of former members of Congress, I might add.<br /><br />The reason for doing so is that despite decades of requests, active<br />members of Congress are actually terrified out of their minds of<br />tackling the subject. A good bit more terrified than they are of the<br />NRA actually, since this time active members of Congress wouldn't just be facing threats of being primaried, they'd be recalling a trail of very dead bodies<br /><br />The first thing you must understand is that this Hearing was not simply about the fact that UFO's have been visiting earth for a very long time. That's old news. Unless you've been living on a desert island you should have known that fact for most of your entire life.<br /><br />What it's about is MONEY. A whole stinking PILE of money. MORE money than you can even BEGIN to conceive of. <br /><br />It's the reverse engineered technology which resulted from shooting down NON-HOSTILE visitors to this planet simply in order to capture their craft. <br /><br />Technology, if disclosure were to be made public, which has the ability, among other things, to totally eliminate our planet's need for fossil fuels and to reverse damage to the planet. This idea is not well received by related industries.<br /><br />There's no way anybody could keep this matter secret, commenters insist. <br /><br />Need I remind you that not even Vice President Truman knew about the massive Manhattan Project until after he became President? Or<br />that when Eisenhower became President and information on UFO's was denied to him by the small, military industrial group which had grabbed control of the project, he had a message hand delivered to them, saying that either they release the information to him immediately or he would personally activate the 1'st Army and invade Area 51?<br /><br />Can't keep it from the public? 90% of the media is owned by a mere 6 corporations. <br /><br />This is not the stuff of the tinfoil hat crowd. When hundreds of trillions of dollars are on the line, witnesses are mere collateral damage. <br /><br />When even Rachel Maddow of MSNBC devotes a huge, out of character segment to viciously attacking the hearing and its witnesses a full week BEFORE it has even taken place, (nothing like reporting the results of something that hasn't happened yet) you know word has already come down from on high; Trash it or be prepared to lose your job.<br /><br />I cannot recommend the archived testimony at CitizenHearingDOTorg highly enough. <br /><br />Start at the beginning, watch the testimony in order, and don't forget the lecture segments (there were about 3 per evening for four days.)<br /><br />Want more info?<br /><br />If you're new to the subject, you may want to start with the new documentary SIRIUS, from The Disclosure Project<br /><br />the-office.com/SiriusEnergyDOThtm<br /><br />I think you'll also find the information (and some rather startling UFO photos) on these pages quite fascinating ;<br /><br />the-office.com/afo/sightedDOThtm<br /><br />the-office.com/majicDOThtm<br /><br />the-office.com/afoProfessorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00473057305028205444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-42890057035383810662013-05-03T19:14:56.710-07:002013-05-03T19:14:56.710-07:00Here is a brief summary of the testimonies:
http:...Here is a brief summary of the testimonies:<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/02/citizen-hearing-on-disclo_2_n_3200580.html<br /><br />The level of science here ranges from "personal experience" to "unusual personal experience" to "idiot foot doctor who doesn't know how feet work" and I would love to see a brief analysis here.Averyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03097443949826910958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-37200620177530529042013-05-03T13:33:39.109-07:002013-05-03T13:33:39.109-07:00Thank you! I read the Popular Science article in 2...Thank you! I read the Popular Science article in 2000. As crazy a nuclear fantasy as I've ever heard. Could've been one of the former itinerant unclear physicist's "brilliant" ideas, huh? Maybe the fantasy-prone fizzycyst saw it in the back pages of Amazing Stories, right next to the Home Nuclear Generator, and believed it was real too! (LOL) zoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-31805332203570436492013-05-01T09:53:05.810-07:002013-05-01T09:53:05.810-07:00It appears that the flagship bunch of ex congress ...It appears that the flagship bunch of ex congress people were paid $20,000 each to sign up for this circus:<br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/29/ufo-conspiracy-hearing-congressmen-senators<br /><br />Furthermore it seems like they were told it was for the sake of promoting general transparency (I mean, who doesn't want that), that one of them is a religious nutjob and another one adheres to that old and annoying fallacy of "the universe is vast, therefore there has to be visiting aliens". I'm not impressed, I wonder if anyone else is?JHAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05216432598765143455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-5627122577767437382013-04-29T06:10:36.172-07:002013-04-29T06:10:36.172-07:00google "Lenticular Re-entry Vehicle".
P...google "Lenticular Re-entry Vehicle".<br /><br />Peace<br />BassmeantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-33609882191454937282013-04-28T16:50:13.151-07:002013-04-28T16:50:13.151-07:00"The possibility that life and civilizations ..."The possibility that life and civilizations have evolved in other parts of the universe is not evidence that Earth has been visited by extraterrestrials."<br /><br />Exactly. We've been hearing this phony rationale for reviving the ETH of "UFO" reports and continued belief in the "UFO" myth and delusion by "model agnostic" Believers for decades.<br /><br />This is classic pseudoscience on at least two counts: Having the answer before hypothesis; and manufacturing a new variation on a failed hypothesis, the ETH, with a phony sciency appeal.<br /> <br />It's curious how otherwise rational people can make the irrational leap from a report of the failure to identify an ambiguous visual stimulus--a negative--to a possible positive identification of interstellar spacecraft from a hypothetical advanced civilization, and pretend it makes sense! It's a non sequitur.<br /><br />My question for Believers is: How did you get the idea that a "UFO" report might even begin to indicate spacecraft from another world? It's your belief in the myth that you should be questioning.zoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-80552284206068152892013-04-28T09:59:34.912-07:002013-04-28T09:59:34.912-07:00transpower;
There's nothing in all of the Ren...transpower;<br /><br />There's nothing in all of the Rendlesham fairy tale that's anything like a giant stealth blimp to start. And every report that has been used as evidence for the mythical blimp can be better explained by ordinary military-training events, the Phoenix "Lights" for example, or exaggerated reports of the B-2 bomber more often than not. The "giant stealth blimp" myth began in the late 1980s when the B-2 started flying. And much like the "Aurora" myth, there may have been plans, contracts and even testing, but these things were canceled in the early 1990s, Reagan-era "Star Wars" defense fantasies were over.<br /><br />There are blimp projects, but the "giant stealth blimp" of the 1980s, reported to float dreamily over Southwestern cities, or stand on edge, hundreds of feet high over deserts before disappearing behind a rainbow, and with a starfield cloaking capability is pure late-night-radio baloney, a minor diversion in "UFO" mythology. But it does recall the public's wishfulness and optimism about technological progress that propelled the original Airship hysteria of 1896-97 and its ready willingness to believe, its predisposition to believe by media conditioning, and Believing is Seeing.<br /><br />Yes, it's almost a "future that was" moment. Too bad none of it ever happened.<br /><br />Hudson Valley: Long-running Hoax<br />Belgium: Typical media-fomented "UFO" Hysteria <br />Illinois: B-2 Trainingzoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-58457363087158211342013-04-28T07:37:41.491-07:002013-04-28T07:37:41.491-07:00The best witness, Airman Burroughs, stated at the ...The best witness, Airman Burroughs, stated at the time: "We could see a beacon going around so we went towards it. We followed it for about two miles before we could [see] it was coming from a light house."<br />zoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-39930675311509172012013-04-27T18:58:41.956-07:002013-04-27T18:58:41.956-07:00Hal yang tidak pernah terbayankan kini menjadi ken...Hal yang tidak pernah terbayankan kini menjadi kenyataan dengan keluargaku,,,untuk MBAH SARTO kami ucapkan banyak terimakasih karna berkat bantuannya ALHAMDULILLAH keluarga kami bisa lepas dari hutang dan masalah,karna nomor “GHOIB”untuk pasangf togel,hasil ritual MBAH SARTO meman benar2 merubah nasib kami hanya sekejap,dan disitulah aku berkesempatan kumpulkan uang untuk buka usaha kembali,karna baik rumah sudah disita,,warung makan jg sudah bangkrut,,tapi itu semua aku masih tetap bertahan hidup dengan anak istriku,,walau cuma kontrak tapi aku tetap bersabar dan akhirnya MBAH SARTO lah yang bisa merubah nasib kami..MBAH SARTO orang paling bersejarah kepada keluarga saya…!!! Kepada teman2 yang di lilit hutang dan ingin merubah nasib baik dari pada sekaran HBG: 082=378=607=111 MBAH SARTO,dengan penuh harapan INSYAH ALLAH pasti tercapai.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13284593892789178663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-37262190391170479652013-04-26T09:07:08.305-07:002013-04-26T09:07:08.305-07:00Mr. Clayton, your comments have gotten too abusive...Mr. Clayton, your comments have gotten too abusive. I have removed one of them, and I will ban you if this keeps up. I also removed Papageno's reply to that abusive post.Robert Sheafferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-31612025561508042172013-04-26T02:43:53.068-07:002013-04-26T02:43:53.068-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.papagenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12865776641731039806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-72112849766101043782013-04-25T09:34:11.020-07:002013-04-25T09:34:11.020-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13272417902465357739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-52022700413371780042013-04-25T06:13:55.325-07:002013-04-25T06:13:55.325-07:00Mr. Clayton, thanks for the quick reply. While I d...Mr. Clayton, thanks for the quick reply. While I do love science, my academic background in scientific study is not at the level of several of the other posters here, so I focus more on what I can offer- things like logic.<br /><br />You laid out a timeline of sorts, so let's take a look at that. Is it supposed to indicate that we're on the verge of immense breakthroughs in interstellar travel? That doesn't logically follow.<br /><br />Einstein's famous equation is mentioned, but the important part is left out, the part about velocity limitations and energy requirements for space travel. Go back to the blog entry on Dec. 29, 2012 if you'd like a thorough perspective on this.<br />(http://badufos.blogspot.com/2012/12/is-interstellar-travel-preposterous.html)<br /><br />Compare the distance to our moon or Mars relative to even the nearest star. Forgive the pun, but the difference is astronomical. We've achieved just a fraction of the velocity of light- it would take thousands of years to get anywhere. <br /><br />Technology will continue forward, to be sure. There is a limit to it. We know enough about interstellar travel to know we shouldn't bother with it.<br /><br />What does this say about intelligent life elsewhere? Well, nothing. It's certainly possible for a variety of other civilizations to have arisen in the universe. I think we're all in agreement here on that. They're still constrained by the same limitations. <br /><br />Could a much older alien race, through tenacity and a desire to explore, travel among worlds? It's possible. It would involve "generation spaceships" coursing through the vastness of space for millenia.<br />When they got here, after all that time, is it logical these highly advanced people spend decades flitting about the skies, not talking to anyone, etc.? <br /><br />ETI is possible. The way that folks like Greer present them is what I find unbelievable. jozzcooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346278013676621644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-25530742673341532982013-04-25T05:50:15.139-07:002013-04-25T05:50:15.139-07:00Frank Clayton - April 25, 2013 at 2:45 AM:
"E...<b>Frank Clayton - April 25, 2013 at 2:45 AM</b>:<br />"<i>Einstein's equation E=mc2 revealing the potential for multiple dimensions, published 108 years ago.</i>"<br /><br />This is not correct. That equation only gives you the amount of energy of a body with mass, in a reference frame where the body is at rest.<br />There is nothing in it about "multiple dimensions".<br /><br /><br /><br /><b>Frank Clayton - April 25, 2013 at 2:45 AM</b>:<br />"<i>So humans are evolving at an amazing speed, however the potential for another extraterrestrial civilization to evolve anywhere between that 13.77 Billion years when humans hadn't evolved yet... is impossible?... please, enlighten me!</i><br /><br />Certainly. What you just did is usually referred to as "strawman": it is a false representation of the argument used by the other person. Effectively it is putting words into the other person's mouth, and has the effect of avoiding the actual argument used by the other person.<br /><br />The possibility that life and civilizations have evolved in other parts of the universe is not evidence that Earth has been visited by extraterrestrials.<br />And you topped it off with a hint of "magic future/alien technology", which is basically just fiction.<br /><br /><br /><br /><b>Frank Clayton - April 25, 2013 at 2:45 AM</b>:<br />"<i>"Well, ummmmm... derp! I think, ummmm... we haven't got enough evidence to prove what it is but ummmm... we can definitely close our minds off to certain possibilities."</i><br /><br />Possibilities such as:<br />- insufficient information to reach a conclusion;<br />- honest mistakes by witnesses;<br />- invisible pink unicorns;<br />- binge-drinking Santa Claus.<br /><br />What criteria should we use to decide which possibilities should be considered?<br /> <br />papagenohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12865776641731039806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-87106716964113399492013-04-25T02:45:59.959-07:002013-04-25T02:45:59.959-07:00Greetings, jozzcooper. Glad to see you also enjoy ...Greetings, jozzcooper. Glad to see you also enjoy sarcasm. :D<br /><br />Lets talk openly. You are a science man, correct? Would you consider the following accurate?<br />> Universe is around 13.78 Billions years old.<br />> Earth around 4.54 Billion years old.<br />> Human life on earth around 200,000 years old.<br />> Discovery of flight only 110 years ago.<br />> Einstein's equation E=mc2 revealing the potential for multiple dimensions, published 108 years ago.<br />> Humans land on the moon, 44 years ago<br />> Humans land a rover on Mars, 16 years ago.<br /><br />So humans are evolving at an amazing speed, however the potential for another extraterrestrial civilization to evolve anywhere between that 13.77 Billion years when humans hadn't evolved yet... is impossible?... please, enlighten me!<br /><br />"Well, ummmmm... derp! I think, ummmm... we haven't got enough evidence to prove what it is but ummmm... we can definitely close our minds off to certain possibilities."<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13272417902465357739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-91814398228519823382013-04-24T17:58:02.377-07:002013-04-24T17:58:02.377-07:00Greetings, Mr. Clayton. That was a reasonably accu...Greetings, Mr. Clayton. That was a reasonably accurate assessment of journalism. This, however, is a blog. The title is usually a giveaway. <br /><br />I liked the use of irony, specifically in the phrase 'poor writing skills'- keep up the good work!jozzcooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346278013676621644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-17438150000341024072013-04-24T09:06:14.083-07:002013-04-24T09:06:14.083-07:00http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocris...http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrisyAl Denelsbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984484059781405644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-42245223730426563542013-04-23T19:28:11.582-07:002013-04-23T19:28:11.582-07:00LOL. I enjoyed the bias comments in this article. ...LOL. I enjoyed the bias comments in this article. I thought journalism was not meant to include personal opinion?<br /><br />The vibe I got from this was, 'HEAR MY VOICE! before you listen to both sides.' Poor writing skills Mr Sheaffer I wonder what your book reviews are like....<br /><br />Psychic Vibrations, A Skeptical Book that’s not just Informative, but FUN to read! LOL........sounds legit!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13272417902465357739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-73058973729294380372013-04-22T13:10:45.412-07:002013-04-22T13:10:45.412-07:00Very expensive LARPing.Very expensive LARPing.Puffin Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04083200918437216263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-67796141619705360252013-04-22T05:14:35.773-07:002013-04-22T05:14:35.773-07:00Welcome G-gnome.
I'm glad you took the time to...Welcome G-gnome.<br />I'm glad you took the time to post. I think it's important you used the phrase 'start paying attention' since that is required of participants lest they sound silly with their comments. <br /><br />Evidently I need not ask if you've read many of the previous entries within this blog. They would clue in the newcomer to the many, repetetive UFO disclosure actions by the PRG. Eventually, it does become a case of 'same old, same old.'<br /><br />I will take the warning against close-mindedness to heart. Go and do likewise.jozzcooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346278013676621644noreply@blogger.com