tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post2114512624086456740..comments2024-03-22T02:17:52.141-07:00Comments on Bad UFOs: Skepticism, UFOs, and The Universe: Shadow ChasingRobert Sheafferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-69346835720035504062017-09-06T05:18:18.930-07:002017-09-06T05:18:18.930-07:00@Encens Sacre: I'm afraid you've chosen a ...@Encens Sacre: I'm afraid you've chosen a very bad example! Almost every word of that news item bends the truth. Kevin Conde's original statement, sent to skeptical ufologist Ian Ridpath in 2001, can be read in full here:<br /><br />http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/statement.htm<br /><br />You'll notice that Conde has absolutely no memory of the incident involving Col. Halt, saying: "One thing is certain. I was stationed at RAF Bentwaters at the time, and in a position to know any and all weird incidents that may have occurred. The only UFO incidents that occurred during my tour were the ones I participated in." So in 2001 Coyne was claiming that Col. Halt and the other witnesses saw nothing at all and at a later date they told elaborate lies inspired by a joke played by Coyne on somebody else!<br /><br />As time goes by and he finds out that, whether aliens were involved or it was just a bizarre misidentification of ordinary things such as stars and a lighthouse, the incident unquestionably did happen, his claim subtly changes until by 2010 he's saying that all he remembers is people laughing about Col. Halt's alleged alien encounter, and nobody took it seriously. So 21 years after the event he can't remember it, but 30 years after it he can, once he finds out that having a memory that bad makes his story less convincing?<br /><br />I don't find this man a very credible witness! Also, he never actually claimed that it was his prank Col. Halt misidentified as an alien spacecraft, and even in 2010 the best he could do was suggest that some unknown person must have been inspired by his practical joke to play the same trick on Col. Halt.<br /><br />I think Kevin Conde just likes media attention, so he jumped on the Rendlesham bandwagon so long after the event that there's no way to check anything he says, and even if his story's true, I doubt it has much to do with the events involving Col. Halt, which, whatever really happened, could not plausibly have been faked by one person shining coloured lights out of a car!<br /><br />Though at least he's a more reliable source than Brenda Butler. To quote a newspaper article from 2010:<br /><br />Ms Butler said she has visited the forest at least once a week for the last 30 years and has made regular contact with extra terrestrials.<br />"We've seen different beings in the forest," she said.<br />"We've seen the black cat, we've seen the little brown monks which float around, we've seen disks, we've seen the craft in the sky, we've seen shadow man, we've seen ghosts.<br />"We see all kinds of stuff in the forest."Count Otto Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13915670684585417091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-79991248271181123642017-09-05T18:43:30.295-07:002017-09-05T18:43:30.295-07:00Count Otto: there is an article from the BBC who ...Count Otto: there is an article from the BBC who claim that a US security police officer named Kevin Conde was responsible for the Rendlesham prank: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/suffolk/3033428.stm<br />There is no evidence that anything "ET" happened at Rendlesham and although I'm sure that Colonel Halt believes that what he saw was a UFO and had no reason to embellish the truth, I think it was a very good prank that became an urban legend. (hope its ok to post the link in this comment, if not then please remove it admin)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-81255759482176712522017-09-05T18:35:02.559-07:002017-09-05T18:35:02.559-07:00Thanks for the solar eclipse photos! It was aweso...Thanks for the solar eclipse photos! It was awesome wasn't it? We live in the PNW and I booked a year in advance for accommodation in Depoe Bay Oregon to view the eclipse. As the date got closer I wanted to kick myself because its cloudier at the coast -- but we got lucky and saw the entire event through the softest cloak of silver fog. During totality there were two bright, twinkling stars that were amazingly clear as viewed through the eclipse 'specs - quite magical. I suppose some nitwit will say those stars were UFO's...like the alleged "sighting" in Yakima, Washington!! Dude probably spent too much time at the pot-shop on his corner. Anyway, what a spectacular event to see and kudos to you guys for going to Twin Falls ID, its gorgeous in that area.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-20160914792482748602017-09-05T11:48:18.253-07:002017-09-05T11:48:18.253-07:00Count Otto:
But a conspiracist can easily argue t...Count Otto:<br /><br />But a conspiracist can easily argue that the UK government did know about Roswell being ET and thus planted the joke 'saucers' deliberately to deflect attention and make it look as if they knew nothing about the crash of 20 years earlier. <br /><br />Once you are a genuine believer in cover-ups or conspiracies, the authorities can do literally ANYTHING to deflect attention from the great 'truth', can't they? <br /><br />The 1967 hoax was all done with official US co-operation. Still top secret, of course.cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-17468413183550177652017-09-02T19:28:37.948-07:002017-09-02T19:28:37.948-07:00This is slightly off-topic since it has nothing to...This is slightly off-topic since it has nothing to do with eclipses, but I thought you might like to be reminded that tomorrow is the 50th. anniversary of one of the most interesting events in the history of ufology, yet one of the least remembered. Details here:<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41110193<br /><br />This nowadays little-known hoax is particularly interesting because it shows how, in an era when flying saucers weren't anything like as much of a joke as they are today, the British authorities responded to a "Roswell Incident" which definitely did happen, and which they didn't at first know was a hoax.<br /><br />You'll notice the complete lack of any cover-up whatsoever. You'll also notice how casually these unidentified and initially mysterious objects were dealt with, heavily implying that there were no security procedures in place for situations like this because 20 years after the start of the modern UFO age, the British government had absolutely no reason to take them seriously.<br /><br />So Britain, a major world government and close ally of the USA, still didn't know in 1967 that 20 years previously an extraterrestrial spacecraft had crashed in New Mexico, and aliens who might be a threat to the continued existence of humanity had been constantly visiting the entire planet in large numbers ever since? It seems to me the only logical explanation is that the British government knew nothing because there was nothing to know.<br /><br />Maybe that's also why this splendidly well-executed prank has been so thoroughly airbrushed out of the history of ufology?Count Otto Blackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13915670684585417091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-39604356916896047392017-09-01T09:01:46.838-07:002017-09-01T09:01:46.838-07:00Don't you know that total eclipses are caused ...Don't you know that total eclipses are caused by giant flying saucers (sideways up) passing in front of the sun? 'They' just don't want the public to know...scherbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09183261254072952790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-66236893555440336902017-08-30T14:01:07.761-07:002017-08-30T14:01:07.761-07:00It appears that the only UFOs reported in MUFON...It appears that the only UFOs reported in MUFON's and NUFORC's database have to do with internal reflections/lens flares people got when they photographed the eclipse. The 1991 eclipse was almost three times as long as this one, which probably gave people more time to look around and see the planet Venus. I did see Venus this time but did not notice much else (other than the moon shadow/twilight). In 1991, I remember seeing Orion's belt. This time I only saw Venus but this may have been because I did not want to spend too much of this short totality gazing at stars. For this reason, I suspect the short duration of this eclipse may have minimized the amount of UFO reports being made due to astronomical objects. People were too focused on the sun to notice anything else.Tim Printyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115389684481839803noreply@blogger.com