tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post3657787138226351331..comments2024-03-22T02:17:52.141-07:00Comments on Bad UFOs: Skepticism, UFOs, and The Universe: Betty Hill’s Last Hurrah – A Secret UFO Symposium in New HampshireRobert Sheafferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-8919474813048877662019-05-24T15:27:45.313-07:002019-05-24T15:27:45.313-07:00Naoki Maeda,
I am writing you after reading an old...Naoki Maeda,<br />I am writing you after reading an old email you sent to an "Encounter at Indian Head (UFO)" website where you asked about interviewing a published author about UFOs<br />for a program you and your media company was working on. I feel Betty and Barney Hill's encounter was real and her later memories about the event was distorted due to her age and health. In the early 60s I read about their ordeal as reported in a magazine while in my dentist's office. I could relate to their sighting because I too, as a child with my parents in 1957, watched a silver oblong UFO fly over our car. In high school,1965 and 1966, I was the journal keeper for my nameless astronomy club. Our purpose was to track UFO activity in NC and interview those who had reported the sightings. Today, I refer to our group members as "Teenagers in Black" (referring to current movies).Years later in 1969, I experienced (touched) what UFO researchers call "Angle Hair" that completely covered my family's land for over 300 yards. It all evaporated in a few days. In 2000, I wrote a book titled The Busy Saucer Summer of '65 describing the interviews, including copies of the journals and diagrams I kept. The UFO National Organization in Texas said that our group's investigations fill in a gap of UFO research missing from the South East during the 60s.<br /> All 6 members of our group went on to be engineers and teachers and our club's president went to NASA and helped design the Moon Rover. He was an avid UFO researcher while at NASA and died while employed. His younger brother, also a member of the astronomy club, calls his death mysterious.<br />So if you are still looking for an author of UFO investigations, and a story to tell contact me. I am a retired high school and university professor of 35 years.<br />I went to Roswell, NM 3 years ago.<br />I commented to the negative naysayers on the "Encounter at Indian Head" comment site that unless they have had an encounter like the Hills they wouldn't understand. They seem to have preconceived and closed minds on the subject.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Robert Hinson, PhD<br />hhinsonrw@aol.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-19083202048793037822016-06-15T11:53:35.070-07:002016-06-15T11:53:35.070-07:00Hello,
This is Naoki Maeda from TopSpin Creative...Hello,<br /> <br />This is Naoki Maeda from TopSpin Creative Corp,<br />a Japanese TV production company in NYC.<br /> <br />We are now working on a Japanese variety program,<br />which features paranormal videos, especially UFOs.<br /> <br />Then we would like to contact a regular author ,Peter Brookesmith.<br />So please forward this email to someone who knows about him or him<br />Thank you for your cooperation. <br />SIncerely, <br /> <br />Naoki Maeda<br />Topspin Creative Corp<br />maeda@topspincreative.comNaoki.Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063579859380841511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-71828680609744949202016-06-15T11:39:31.613-07:002016-06-15T11:39:31.613-07:00Hello,
This is Naoki Maeda from TopSpin Creative...Hello,<br /> <br />This is Naoki Maeda from TopSpin Creative Corp,<br />a Japanese TV production company in NYC.<br /> <br />We are now working on a Japanese variety program,<br />which features paranormal videos, especially UFOs.<br /> <br />Then we would like to contact a regular author ,Peter Brookesmith.<br />So please forward this email to someone who knows about him or him<br />Thank you for your cooperation. <br />SIncerely, <br /> <br />Naoki Maeda<br />Topspin Creative Corp<br />maeda@topspincreative.comNaoki.Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11063579859380841511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-75322603450676020692015-10-30T19:09:21.870-07:002015-10-30T19:09:21.870-07:00has anybody bought this on dvd
http://www.classic...has anybody bought this on dvd<br /><br />http://www.classicmoviesandtvcom.com/product/the-ufo-incident-dvd-tv-james-earl-jones-estelle-parsons-1975Classic Manualshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13814491340687259856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-68566266131221589382015-07-24T14:08:48.320-07:002015-07-24T14:08:48.320-07:00Here's a review of "Encounters at Indian ...Here's a review of "Encounters at Indian head" in which Peter Rogerson concludes, as others have, that the Hills were simply deeply troubled people who created their transformative late "Contactee" fantasy and so their self-anointed new-age flying-saucer spiritualist personae in order to paper over their many problems and present faces of achievement and wisdom to the world—however obviously imaginary and completely phony to rational people. And, like most other big "UFO" stories, all of this only happened because the actors, working from a culturally supplied script, played their roles to the hilt. <br /><br />http://mrobsr.blogspot.com/2012/08/encounters-at-indian-head.html<br /><br /> zoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-8170580204633127922015-07-20T17:02:57.918-07:002015-07-20T17:02:57.918-07:00Seems to me that Mark's first error is a relia...Seems to me that Mark's first error is a reliance on ancient comments from people who, however well decorated with stars and fruit salads, did not know—because they were working from available information—what we know now about UFO sightings.<br /><br />His second error is to take UFO reports as "data". They aren't. They are reports, a.k.a. stories, and are subjective. (Zond IV, anyone?) As such they have their own peculiar interest, which is where the PSH comes in, and as such have created a set of legends within a larger myth. Betty Hill's story is one such legend.<br /><br />I am, as is no secret, mildly allergic to Zoam's kind of militant skepticism, and often see "experience" where he mostly sees "hoax". His comments sometimes remind me of the Maginot and Siegfried Lines. That said, I wonder if I am alone in often finding Mark's commentaries half intelligent and half obtuse? This makes them difficult to tackle short of massive nit-picking analysis, which would be even more boring to read than to write.<br /><br />It's not merely ego that makes me suggest Mark reads 'Encounters at Indian Head' before he pronounces on the obduracy of "debunkers" who comment on the Hill case. There's still much there to be unearthed, had anyone the time and resources—although I doubt leather-jacketed, prurient, stubby little aliens with protean noses will feature much in filling in the gaps.<br /><br />—Peter B<br />The Duke of Mendozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14335501899298333878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-89307311986654514672015-07-20T16:22:21.979-07:002015-07-20T16:22:21.979-07:00Wasn't there a book that debunks every single ...Wasn't there a book that debunks every single one of Ted Phillips physical trace cases?Ron S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03209627370215186888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-1509421714675100382015-07-17T13:57:52.903-07:002015-07-17T13:57:52.903-07:00See the ridiculousness of this whole appeal to the...See the ridiculousness of this whole appeal to their nonexistent “authority?” And a few uninformed of the totality of an evolving situation, and so irresponsible, even irrational quotations made about “UFO” hysteria by individuals in government and the military over decades is worthless anyway as an argument for the extraordinary: Anyone might falsely believe and say anything! That doesn’t mean the extraordinary is even partially true. Extraordinary claims require more than mere inherently fallible human “quotations.” <br /><br />In the larger real-world in which the “UFO” myth and delusion is merely one in a documented history of popular myths and social delusions, these quotations and Kean’s book as well as all others are evidence of the veracity of the Null and Psychosocial hypotheses for “UFO” reports because there are no fantasical “UFOs” of any kind and never were. If what I’m saying were not the case and there were real “UFOs” of some kind or ever had been, we’d all know it already, it would be an obvious fact in the world like every other thing said to exist. “UFOs” would have presence, persistence, substance, but there are no “objects,” there is no “phenomenon.” “UFOs” are merely the subject of aerial ghost stories, a dead and fossilized pseudoscience and fading popular delusion—being so obviously unreal after decades of failing to materialize. <br /><br />There is but one set of data, the catalogue of every report ever made on the subject beginning with the first “airship” hoax in 1896. There are multiple pseudoscientific theories about that data, but neither those failed theories or the mass of reports considered as “evidence” have falsified the Null hypothesis: the data is unchanged, there just aren’t any real “UFOs” of any kind and never were. Even the “best” stories are bunk; in fact, the “best” stories are the most debunkable because they’re composed of utter bunk! <br /><br />Given the Null, the Psychosocial hypothesis documents the history of the myth. Debunking deconstructs the myth, the PSH destroys the reasons for belief and the social delusion. It's the most rational explanation for why people make "UFO" reports: Believing is Seeing. zoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-48521407115787307822015-07-17T13:47:49.758-07:002015-07-17T13:47:49.758-07:00As if any one of them knows any more about the sub...As if any one of them knows any more about the subject of a modern myth than the average person when we know they don't.<br /><br />Mark says, “are you actually claiming to have at your disposal an intelligence apparatus of global proportion, equivalent to that of the US intelligence agencies?”<br /><br />I’m saying that none of the same old questionable quotations made by individuals with no special knowledge of the popular-culture “UFO” myth and social delusion means anything at all in making the case for an extraordinary “UFX” of any kind haunting the stratosphere and nearspace. We’ve seen them repeated on the Internet for two decades at least and printed in many worthless “UFO” books for decades before Kean’s. Why one would think they mean something now is only evidence of the irrationality of believers in the myth and the utter lack of evidence for real “UFOs.” Mark, the USAF Space Command has monitored the globe and nearspace for decades and it has failed to detect “UFOs” of any kind—only earth-crossing asteroids, many more upper-atmosphere grazing than previously known, random meteoritic objects of metal, rock and ice, and man-made objects.<br /><br />Fallaciously assuming there are real “UFOs” of some kind and that world governments and their intelligence agencies must know something about it is just part of the juvenile myth. Beginning with lone workshop wizards, super scientists in secret mountain laboratories, secret air fields, vast networks of caves and underground installations, entire subterranean civilizations with flying saucers, MIB, spies and conspiracies have always been part of the myth, it all only evidences the myth’s origin in juvenile fiction—not reality. Think about it, Mark, it’s no coincidence that everything about “UFOs” even if transformed by evolving technology already existed in the early science-fiction of steam, electrics, radio waves and completely imaginary flying machines. So the idea that being a general, holding political office, or being a government bureaucrat gives one special knowledge of such fantasies because the world is in a state of continuous war and high-technology weapons development and they would be in the know—especially secret knowledge of real “UFOs” that never seem to appear—is laughable on its face. But assuming they did exist, it would be impossible to keep such a secret. (Just where are all those old airships and flying saucers? I’ve seen a lot of old jets in the desert but not a single saucer, crashed or otherwise.) <br />zoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-26642388656539967322015-07-15T04:43:56.175-07:002015-07-15T04:43:56.175-07:00"Certainly they are worth listening to, but s..."Certainly they are worth listening to, but so are just as many others who have come to a different conclusion"<br /><br />Well, disbelief is the position that most people take, but essentially, we'll never know what their experience of the evidence is, so we can hardly make a judgement of the evidence by counting the opponents of belief. We can, however, make a judgment of the evidence for those claims made in the positive as they often make mention to detail of the evidence itself. Moreoever, the common theme amongst the claimant's is their title or rank which would suggest that if this information was available, at all, they would likely have access to it <br /><br />"Incidentally, Hillenkoetter changed his views somewhat in later years"<br /><br />Can you prove this to a degree which positively discounts his original statements? Or are you merely choosing to believe this because it suites your position? Mark McFarlanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16513458957267040420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-59365983803550311832015-07-15T04:43:26.057-07:002015-07-15T04:43:26.057-07:00"You talk about "in-the-know military be..."You talk about "in-the-know military believers". Can you tell us what these guys know about UFOs that we, the public, do not know"<br /><br />I'm not privy to the details, of course. I am merely making an observation which conveys the reality unequivocally depicted in the quotes. What I can tell you is only what they have told us: they know more than the general public<br /><br />"Do they possess some special knowledge they have not told us?"<br /><br />These are their claims, yes.<br /><br />"Because if they do, you are, in effect, implying there is a conspiracy and cover-up at an official level. Therefore you seem to belong to the conspiracy brigade"<br /><br />If, in fact, the UFO phenomenon is something real, and not simply a myth, then based on the claims of these individuals it seems conspiracy becomes unavoidable, does it not?<br /><br />To see 'conspiracy' as something to avoid reveals your desire to avoid taboo, in turn, showing that your motives upon taking a position on this issue are questionable (not guided purely by evidence) - you would distinctly like to avoid, at any cost, being viewed as a conspiracy theorist. Consider that for a moment. And then ask yourself if you will go anywhere the evidence takes you?<br />As I've explained before, this topic reveals more about who we are as people and a culture than it does reveal any 'truths' about UFO's<br /><br />"If, on the other hand, you are saying that they are simply better informed than our civilian scientists and in particular our astronomers and astrophysicists, again I put it to you: what special information do these military & intelligence guys have that the scientific world does not have?"<br /><br />Let's do an exercise.. UFO's (provided they exist) operate predominantly in the skies, and exhibit behaviors that don't lend themselves to edge of a ruler, or the width of a test tube. If civilian scientists, or even Mrs Hill, have the fortune of interacting with a UFO in some way, the experience is scientifically meaningless for those involved and, almost not even worthy of consideration for anyone who didn't experience it first hand - this rule doesn't change, and for this reason, neither does the quality of the evidence at a civilian level, apparently. And with each experience happening randomly we aren't ever able to make preparations in which to improve the conditions for empiricism. So far as civilians are concerned, we're no better equipped today than we were 60 years ago.<br />However, the military are at a particular advantage when it comes to taking more away from these types of experiences, for instance; they, the military, have our skies under heavy radar observation. When a UFO appears within our airspace, the military can, for example, make a series of empirical estimations as to the nature of the object via radar. Invariably, they'll send some fighter jets to 'investigate'. From this position they may be able to correlate all kinds of data: record gun camera footage, and use an eye visual to confirm the electronic data. Essentially, they have the ability to turn a random sighting into a definite and measurable encounter - that is the fundamental difference. <br /><br />There really aren't any other ways to collect verifiable data, that I'm aware of. And considering civilian researchers and civilian scientists don't have the luxury of military capability, naturally the quality of the evidence available to them is limited, often to radiation trace cases, video footage, witness testimony and released Gov documents. None of which, unfortunately, can be considered 'smoking gun' evidence on their own. At least not to the caliber of denialist that is Mr Zoamchomsky<br />Mark McFarlanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16513458957267040420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-59058934017644033942015-07-14T06:07:20.609-07:002015-07-14T06:07:20.609-07:00Mark:
You talk about "in-the-know military b...Mark:<br /><br />You talk about "in-the-know military believers". Can you tell us what these guys know about UFOs that we, the public, do not know. <br /><br />Do they possess some special knowledge they have not told us? Because if they do, you are, in effect, implying there is a conspiracy and cover-up at an official level. Therefore you seem to belong to the conspiracy brigade. If, on the other hand, you are saying that they are simply better informed than our civilian scientists and in particular our astronomers and astrophysicists, again I put it to you: what special information do these military & intelligence guys have that the scientific world does not have? Certainly they are worth listening to, but so are just as many others who have come to a different conclusion. <br /><br />Incidentally, Hillenkoetter changed his views somewhat in later years. <br />cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-33581399223310723232015-07-14T04:41:37.845-07:002015-07-14T04:41:37.845-07:00"As if any one of them knows any more about t..."As if any one of them knows any more about the subject of a modern myth than the average person when we know they don't"<br /><br />This statement, right here, is everything that is wrong with the Debunking of UFO's. I mean, c'mon, are you actually claiming to have at your disposal an intelligence apparatus of global proportion, equivalent to that of the US intelligence agencies? If not, then with respect for sense and reason you must concede that these individuals are making comment from a position far more informed than your own - point being, they do not believe it to be myth, why is that? What do they know that you do not? Even if it is all merely "opinion", they are, nonetheless, the opinions formed on a wealth of data and insight that neither you, or any other Debunker would ever have the luxury of relying on (a large portion of the military witnesses speak of Radar and electronic data confirming eye witness accounts, what more does one need?)<br /><br />When the Director of the CIA can make a brief but mysterious statement so fundamentally attached to secret intelligence, what gives an ignorant Debunker the confidence to utterly discount that statement? Please, can someone answer that? Is it, perhaps, that um, UFO's are a myth, therefore, everything the Director of the CIA says = wrong? <br /><br />"as if these quotations are even real or accurate;"<br /><br />Zoam, if you wish to discount the accuracy/legitimacy of the quotations, I'd suggest first finding evidence to support this claim. The quotations themselves are referenced and founded. Please try not to resort to the kind of weak cynicism we all know you most enjoy. <br /><br />"as if public figures are somehow immune to a social delusion and aren't simply making statements of personal opinion"<br /><br />Well, sure, I agree with that statement on the face of it - people everywhere are subject to the same tricks of the world. However, what's clear is that it's the quality of the data which is forcing these reluctant admissions from conservative, well adjusted individuals -consistent data supercedes social delusion. Moreover, these claims based on data stand with mass, consistent in detail and through time as a collective conclusion born of proper military Intel that, if we are being realistic, shouldn't simply be discounted by petty conjecture from a man with a vague hypothesis of human fallibility.... Let's be honest here! <br /><br />The statements above are the product of our militaries best scientific estimates over the last 60 years. They do, in a factual sense, represent the best judgment we as human observers of the phenomenon can reasonably make. <br /><br />But please, do continue to explain how some old attention seeker (Mrs. Hill) has managed to gain the attention of a forum full of debunkers. And yet an almost endless list of documented, credible, in-the-know military believers are simply unworthy of even light readingMark McFarlanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16513458957267040420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-59249333517905415992015-07-14T04:40:40.259-07:002015-07-14T04:40:40.259-07:00"At this time the reports of incidents convin..."At this time the reports of incidents convince us that there is something going on that must have immediate attention. Sightings of unexplained objects at high altitudes and traveling at high speeds in the vicinity of major U.S. defense installations are of such nature that they are not attributable to natural phenomena or known types of vehicles."<br />H. MARSHALL CHADWELL<br />Assistant Director of Scientific Intelligence, CIA<br />December 2, 1952<br /> <br /><br /> <br />"No agency in this country or Russia is able to duplicate at this time the speeds and accelerations which radars and observers indicate these flying objects are able to achieve... there are objects coming into our atmosphere at very high speeds."<br /> ADMIRAL DELMER S. FAHMEY<br />Former Head U.S. Navy Guided-Missile Program<br />New York Times, Page 31, January 17, 1957<br /><br /><br /><br />"What I found [in doing research for the book Project Delta] was compelling evidence to claim that most of these aerial objects far exceeded the terrestrial technology of the era in which they were seen. I was forced to conclude that there is a great likelihood that Earth is being visited by highly advanced aerospace vehicles under highly 'intelligent' control indeed."<br /> DR. RICHARD F. HAINES<br /> Retired NASA senior research scientist<br />Ames Research Center<br />Research Institute for Advanced Computer Science<br />1998<br /><br /><br /><br />"It is time for the truth to be brought out... Behind the scenes high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense.... I urge immediate Congressional action to reduce the dangers from secrecy about unidentified flying objects."<br />VICE ADMIRAL ROSCOE HILLENKOETTER<br />CIA Director<br />Statement to Congress<br />August 22, 1960.<br /><br /><br />"An investigator for the Air Force stated that three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers. Approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall. Dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots."<br /> TO: J. EDGAR HOOVER<br />FBI Director<br />Memo to J. Edgar Hoover from the Washington FBI Office<br />March 22, 1950<br />Released in 1976 under the FOIA<br /> <br /><br /><br />"This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious."<br />GENERAL NATHAN F. TWINING <br />Chief of Staff, US Air Force<br />Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of StaffMark McFarlanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16513458957267040420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-78907686669199316532015-07-13T10:55:15.135-07:002015-07-13T10:55:15.135-07:00Zoam:
Let's give credit to Mark for one thing...Zoam:<br /><br />Let's give credit to Mark for one thing. He has resuscitated this blog - after lying dormant for five weeks. <br />cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-56374050097833707512015-07-13T08:40:24.400-07:002015-07-13T08:40:24.400-07:00Hey, it's the old Argument from Authority fall...Hey, it's the old Argument from Authority fallacy! Talk about time wasting....<br /><br />Gosh, Mark, another visit to the Hall of Questionable Quotations (by public figures) in the "UFO" wing of the Pseudoscience (formerly Kooks) Museum.<br /><br />As if any one of them knows any more about the subject of a modern myth than the average person when we know they don't; as if these quotations are even real or accurate; as if public figures are somehow immune to a social delusion and aren't simply making statements of personal opinion divorced from their office.<br /><br />Mark, we've seen most of these questionable quotations for decades and fantastic flying saucers are no more real now than before; and appealing to foolish quotations by whoever seems the least likely way of ever making a convincing argument. It's worthless. <br /><br />While a personal report, with photos, on an historic secret symposium on the classic Betty Hill "abduction" case is informative in many ways, is interesting and entertaining—and will be into the future. That's not something I can say about Internet testimonials to mindless belief in the tired flying-saucer myth.zoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-45988705983186073662015-07-13T07:58:02.591-07:002015-07-13T07:58:02.591-07:00Indeed there are a great number of people of high ...Indeed there are a great number of people of high ranks and positions that have made positive statements about UFOs and their origins. It would be just as easy (and probably a lot easier) to find as many, or many more, people of equal rank and position who will say exactly the opposite. So where does that leave us? Answer: nowhere. I first read some of these assertions from the high & mighty decades ago. So what? <br /><br />Presidents Carter of the USA and Idi Amin of Uganda both saw UFOs. Big deal. (Neither was abducted by ETs - to my knowledge).<br /><br />You can find a similar number who will say the same about astrology, faith healing, psychic phenomena, telepathy and so on. And where does that get us regarding understanding these phenomena? Again - nowhere.<br /><br />Note that although all these people in high, or sometimes not so high, places all pronounce positively on UFOs, none has said they were abducted by aliens, as Betty Hill did. But since I have not read them all, maybe I am wrong and at least one of them HAS been abducted. Where do we go from there?<br /><br />Enough said.<br /><br />cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-35011339679308032752015-07-13T04:49:05.055-07:002015-07-13T04:49:05.055-07:00Hi all,
It always warms my heart, upon my infrequ...Hi all,<br /><br />It always warms my heart, upon my infrequent visits to this blog, to find the same old personalities shadow boxing in front of one another, in critique of the same old cases, enacting some ritualistic merry-go-round of righteousness. Watching you guys create a Strawman, attack it, then discuss your many intellectual victories is indeed heart-warming.<br /><br />I ask, why focus on the stories of Mrs Hill and the endless list of features which exist as fictional speculation? When, all the while we have an endless list of world leaders having made statements just as controversial, only, they exist not as fiction, but as real world determinations/conclusions<br /><br />Follow the link, open your eyes for just a brief moment, and realize how much of your lives you have spent, wasted on a false premise of denialism and misconstrued facts. Realize the inevitability - you're all wasting your time here. Heart warming, huh?<br /><br />http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/QuotesPage.htm<br /><br />Warm regards<br />MarkMark McFarlanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16513458957267040420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-65794143109462976142015-06-08T16:41:08.816-07:002015-06-08T16:41:08.816-07:00Betty Hill’s T-Shirt:
“I DREAMT I was abducted by ...Betty Hill’s T-Shirt:<br />“I DREAMT I was abducted by aliens and all I got ...."zoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-14504739942381582082015-06-08T16:32:45.405-07:002015-06-08T16:32:45.405-07:00ZO's T-shirt: "UFO NOT!"ZO's T-shirt: "UFO NOT!"zoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-42206761049088072812015-06-07T17:34:10.904-07:002015-06-07T17:34:10.904-07:00Yes, Chris, and as I recall one of the pair was ca...Yes, Chris, and as I recall one of the pair was called Higgins. Charles Bowen took it seriously, but it was later exposed as a hoax.<br /><br />My own ducality does not derive from this incident.<br /><br />—Peter BThe Duke of Mendozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14335501899298333878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-31650431850443355412015-06-07T08:00:53.024-07:002015-06-07T08:00:53.024-07:00Am I right in thinking that in a distant back issu...Am I right in thinking that in a distant back issue of FSR (forget when) there was an abduction tale from a place called Mendoza (in Argentina)?<br />cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-36010172687907561932015-06-06T16:41:50.182-07:002015-06-06T16:41:50.182-07:00Peter B''s T-shirt:
"I am the Duke of...Peter B''s T-shirt:<br />"I am the Duke of Mendoza and I am nobody's junior partner"The Duke of Mendozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14335501899298333878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-25525306915171545622015-06-06T14:47:16.400-07:002015-06-06T14:47:16.400-07:00Betty Hill’s T-Shirt:
“I was abducted by aliens an...Betty Hill’s T-Shirt:<br />“I was abducted by aliens and all I got is more UFO stories!”<br /><br />Barney Hill’s T-Shirt:<br />“I was abducted by aliens and all I got was genital warts!”<br /><br />Joe Firmage’s T-Shirt:<br />"Not Your Average Joe!”<br /><br />Karl Pflock’s T-Shirt:<br />“Birds of a Feather Pflock Together”<br /><br />Robert Sheaffer’s T-Shirt:<br />“The Truth is Out There”<br />TS4072https://www.blogger.com/profile/14868748913496479906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-66128337337777951372015-06-01T12:54:39.520-07:002015-06-01T12:54:39.520-07:00Gilles,
As I worte in an earlier Blog posting, &q...Gilles,<br /><br />As I worte in an earlier Blog posting, "The Hills reported what appears to be a second Close Encounter with the light atop Cannon Mountain on April 2, 1966: "As we were returning through the Franconia Notch in the general area of the tramway and Cannon Mountain, one [UFO] moved around the mountain about 50 feet from the ground, in front of us. Its lights dimmed out and we could see the row of windows before it became invisible. It just faded out of sight and then just reappeared with different lighting behind us... On the opposite side of the highway was a second one, which also faded out. ” (Marden, p. 208-209)."<br /><br />This incident reportedly occurred in the car, with Barney right next to her. <br />http://badufos.blogspot.com/2011/10/mr-and-mrs-hills-wild-ride.htmlRobert Sheafferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.com