tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post4361229316687166471..comments2024-03-22T02:17:52.141-07:00Comments on Bad UFOs: Skepticism, UFOs, and The Universe: Greer Documentary "Sirius" Promises Free Energy and a Dead Alien Robert Sheafferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-62766509207904894122018-08-10T15:38:55.112-07:002018-08-10T15:38:55.112-07:00Yes! And it was in Russia an identical body.Dr. Em...Yes! And it was in Russia an identical body.Dr. Emery Smith examined same body. All present conclude d it was huma with a rare genetic disorder.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10747577970341610950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-10293841867653855462014-05-09T13:32:55.556-07:002014-05-09T13:32:55.556-07:00There is on you tube documentary movie Men in Blac...There is on you tube documentary movie Men in Black. Is interesting and you can watch here:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ML-dSbqlM<br />and believe it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-19332463163389260632013-04-27T19:02:36.209-07:002013-04-27T19:02:36.209-07:00Hal yang tidak pernah terbayankan kini menjadi ken...Hal yang tidak pernah terbayankan kini menjadi kenyataan dengan keluargaku,,,untuk MBAH SARTO kami ucapkan banyak terimakasih karna berkat bantuannya ALHAMDULILLAH keluarga kami bisa lepas dari hutang dan masalah,karna nomor “GHOIB”untuk pasangf togel,hasil ritual MBAH SARTO meman benar2 merubah nasib kami hanya sekejap,dan disitulah aku berkesempatan kumpulkan uang untuk buka usaha kembali,karna baik rumah sudah disita,,warung makan jg sudah bangkrut,,tapi itu semua aku masih tetap bertahan hidup dengan anak istriku,,walau cuma kontrak tapi aku tetap bersabar dan akhirnya MBAH SARTO lah yang bisa merubah nasib kami..MBAH SARTO orang paling bersejarah kepada keluarga saya…!!! Kepada teman2 yang di lilit hutang dan ingin merubah nasib baik dari pada sekaran HBG: 082=378=607=111 MBAH SARTO,dengan penuh harapan INSYAH ALLAH pasti tercapai.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13284593892789178663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-29690922859644760182013-04-21T07:54:18.190-07:002013-04-21T07:54:18.190-07:00Hmmm, the two most negative comments I see in this...Hmmm, the two most negative comments I see in this entire thread are (wait for it)... people complaining about negativity.<br /><br />By some strange coincidence, they're also comments that contribute no useful information.<br /><br />If anyone ever wonders why there are so few serious investigators in the field, consider who would feel motivated to even bother when the vast majority of discussions feature responses such as these.<br /><br />Of course, you also have to consider that nearly all of those urging serious investigations won't spend a dime on something that doesn't confirm their desires...Al Denelsbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984484059781405644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-67541283733702207112013-04-20T20:02:30.983-07:002013-04-20T20:02:30.983-07:00I like the 'ignorant armchair researchers'...I like the 'ignorant armchair researchers' bit. It comes from armchair quarterbacking, mainly hollering at the TV- "Throw the ball, Ben! Throw it! Nooo! Ok, now throw it!" The problem with the analogy is that it refers to a real thing, playing quarterback in the NFL, while investigating ETI is basically a hypothetical exercise. The reality is that it makes anyone involved an "armchair researcher".<br /><br />I am glad of the assurances regarding Greer's work. I also commend him on being 100% correct- that's a rare feat in any field. Despite this, I do require something more substantial. Unfortunately, I can't prove that aliens aren't traveling through other dimensions utilizing FTL travel. I'm that old stick-in-the-mud who asks you to prove its reality first.<br /><br />jozzcooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346278013676621644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-33764619314337878222013-04-20T16:47:42.446-07:002013-04-20T16:47:42.446-07:00Lucas, you may be right - it could be older. Or th...Lucas, you may be right - it could be older. Or the fetus picture I linked to could be younger, or underdeveloped. But since the 'alien' has the major bones of the skull exactly as we develop them, scapulae and clavicles, to all appearances one upper-limb bone and two lower-limb bones, carpals and tarsals, a pelvis and what could very well be a classic human spine curvature, I'm going to say the doctors who pronounced it a human fetus have a hell of a lot more evidence in their favor that Greer arbitrarily claiming it isn't human.<br /><br />A note about evolution: species develop due to environmental demands and previously existing structures. We have the skeleton we do because of the path we took from sea-dweller to live-bearing mammal to tree climber to plains runner. There is no reason to expect anything of the sort from a species that developed elsewhere, and it stretches coincidence beyond imagination to think an extra-terrestrial species would be humanoid, or even symmetrical. Al Denelsbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984484059781405644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-69658308344839648602013-04-20T15:41:52.059-07:002013-04-20T15:41:52.059-07:00Lucas Pacheco said:
"I've notice that you...Lucas Pacheco said:<br />"I've notice that you adore add sarcasm in your comments. I personally don't appreciate that. Even if you are a remarkable scientist, don't go smashing the others with your "scientific knowledge", it is not polite."<br /><br />I find sarcasm a very useful tool sometimes, especially when it comes to people incorrectly assigning attitudes or comments to me. I have no idea where you got the idea that I was smashing others with my scientific knowledge.<br /><br />"But science cannot hold everything, and we know that. When I talk with my friends from Physics, some of them say "we are too far to proove a lot of things", well, look to the strings theory or to the so vast quantum mechanics! The science is a process, science will keep evolving."<br /><br />No argument at all, and you'll notice I never said science now contains everything we will ever know. BUT, there is nothing that says that anything that we discover in the future will destroy what we know now, either. No part of physics will go away even if we discover some new facet of it - we just might realize we were misinterpreting something.<br /><br />All of that is beside the point. Greer (and all other claimants) are still required to prove their claims, regardless of what science does not know. Why bother arguing with skeptics, and appealing to possibilities? Just prove us wrong.<br /><br />"When I said 'you guys give too much faith to the government' I mean: If the US air force say 'we are being visited by Extraterrestrial Intelligent life forms' so what then?"<br /><br />I'd still want to see the evidence, same as before. The point you're missing is that I do not place blind faith in anyone, nor any position. I am more <em>likely</em> to believe someone who makes a claim that is highly probable ("I bought a new shirt today") than one that is highly improbable ("The government has zero-point energy and is hiding it.") But either way, someone better show either a shirt or a spaceship.<br /><br />"You know, this is a possibility. Talking over 'probabilities', you know the probability of an intelligent E.T. life existence is considerable."<br /><br />No, actually, I don't. As jozzcooper said, no one has any way of calculating that. A little lesson in logic. The common usage of "possibility" is something like, "We haven't proven it's impossible yet." This ignores that something could very well be impossible, we just can't establish that firmly. Scientifically and statistically, possibility refers to conditions that <em>allow a known factor</em>. The chance of life on Earth is 1:1 (or simply 1) - we already know it exists. The chance of life on any other planet is 0:1 (which is zero), since we have found none at all. Sounds contentious, but that's how probability works. We'd like to think that it can arise because we know what conditions it needs, Drake's Equation and all that, but without a solid example this does not enter probability. If you like resorting to <em>possibility</em>, it is also possible that we are dead wrong.<br /><br />That's why I don't bother with appeals to future knowledge or what we <em>don't</em> know. I'd be just as fascinated as the next guy if we <em>did</em> find any form of life, and have confidence in the science behind how we think it's possible (liquid water, certain temperatures, etc.) But it remains speculation until we prove it right, and I won't let this influence my belief in finding it.<br /><br />Two last things. The considerable probability of ET life that you speak of should also take into account the vast distances to cross to get here, and the likelihood that evolving on another planet may produce something we wouldn't even recognize, much less communicate with. The second is, notice that you put great faith in science over this probability of life, but virtually dismissed every bit that made Greer's claims highly unlikely. How come?Al Denelsbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984484059781405644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-19222361509574225432013-04-19T21:08:56.892-07:002013-04-19T21:08:56.892-07:00UFO is one thing (and it's not ONE phenomenon,...UFO is one thing (and it's not ONE phenomenon, it's a heap), ETI is a totally different thing. Since Greer, Pope, Hastings, Wilcock et al. have been lying to us before and since they have a financial interest in these lies, then just how credible are they? Hell, how credible is Project Disclosure after a decade of empty promises and cheap PR stunts? <br /><br />Wake up. JHAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05216432598765143455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-1688786637701604552013-04-19T17:14:40.514-07:002013-04-19T17:14:40.514-07:00It's funny that so many people from profession...It's funny that so many people from professional debunkers to the ignorant armchair researchers attack Greer at every turn rather than taking the time to investigate the UFO/ETI phenomenon for themselves. Iam one of those individuals who has investigated this subject extensively and have worked with Dr Greer and independently of him and I can assure the naysayers that Dr. Greer is 100% correct in his research and disclosure work. Instead of poo-pooing him , get off your duffs and go talk to him or give an argument of rebuttal that you can back up with proof otherwise you are adding nothing of intelligence to this subject matter with your comments of negativity.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01788094291992937729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-16760773744130890582013-04-19T15:52:30.343-07:002013-04-19T15:52:30.343-07:00Greetings Lucas. I read a few things you've wr...Greetings Lucas. I read a few things you've written and would like to offer my comments.<br /><br />I am glad to see you're an engineering student, and moreover, intellectually curious. You probably want to avoid referring to films like Zeitgeist, fraught with conspiracy theories, if you're after scientific truth. <br /><br />9/11 is a good place to start if you like comparisons to the UFO enigma. Here is an attack involving known assailants with ideological reasons, means, and opportunity. The scenario best fits a terrorist attack. There is no real need to put much effort into alternative theories, since this is the simplest one that conforms to the facts. <br /><br />Using this same technique, take a look at UFOs. Let's say an observer sees lights in the sky. After some digging, someone like Mr. Sheaffer finds out that it was nothing more than high-intensity flares. Why look further? What purpose is served in suggesting it's really alien spaceships, something that has no factual basis to date?<br /><br />Mr. Greer's "alien" is another good case. Is it more likely to be a premature human or primate or, again, a being that has no scientific antecedent? <br /><br />Out of curiosity, why is the probability of intelligent alien life considerable? I'm not saying there isn't any in our universe, but how does one calculate it. Our data is essentially comprised of life on Earth. It strikes me as more speculation than anything.<br /><br />If you like government conspiracies, pause a minute to consider the response if this outfit did find an alien specimen. I don't think we'd be seeing any documentary films being made about it.<br /><br />An end note: check out what UFO proponents are saying. Human abductions and sexual experimentation (and a lot more) abound in the reports. Does it make you wonder why a civilization on the order of "hundreds of thousands of years old" engages in these nefarious activities for decades.jozzcooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346278013676621644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-17897939661280131772013-04-19T15:10:59.300-07:002013-04-19T15:10:59.300-07:00Based on his endorsement of so many paranormal cla...Based on his endorsement of so many paranormal claims, I'd put that in the unlikeliest category. jozzcooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346278013676621644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-51137721134640847642013-04-19T14:36:57.800-07:002013-04-19T14:36:57.800-07:00Hi there Denels! I've notice that you adore ad...Hi there Denels! I've notice that you adore add sarcasm in your comments. I personally don't appreciate that. Even if you are a remarkable scientist, don't go smashing the others with your "scientific knowledge", it is not polite. Despite that, In general I don't disagree with your beliefs, that apparentely is attached to the general scientific consensus. You said "when it (Science) tells me how physics works and how firmly it's held together over the years, I have confidence in it." Perfect! I'm a undergraduate of Engineering, so I know perfectly what is that physics you are talking about. When we study physics, we start with most simplified situations as possible, and with idealized circunstances, and man, nevertheless all the calculus involved gets so complex! Amazing thing, indeed =) But science cannot hold everything, and we know that. When I talk with my friends from Physics, some of them say "we are too far to proove a lot of things", well, look to the strings theory or to the so vast quantum mechanics! The science is a process, science will keep evolving. When I said "you guys give too much faith to the government" I mean: If the US air force say "we are being visited by Extraterrestrial Intelligent life forms" so what then? It will, probably, be some impact over the society, and over the academic communities - a big (?) question. You know, this is a possibility. Talking over 'probabilities', you know the probability of an intelligent E.T. life existence is considerable. The probabilities can give us civilizations in the order of hundreds of thousands of life years. <br />I'm excited about the Greer's work. Well, let's see what he can give us! <br />(I'm sorry about my English, I'm not from a English language country!)<br />Hugs,<br />Lucas.Lucas Pachecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13809649209403498059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-90496670102914888902013-04-19T13:52:16.150-07:002013-04-19T13:52:16.150-07:00Lucas: And clearly you didn't even read the re...Lucas: And clearly you didn't even read the reports, yet you were quick to dismiss it. That says alot about your objectivity. <br /><br />If you hadn't noticed, the odd skull shape that you refer to is clearly the result of severe lateral compression, as professor Etxeberria noted in his report. Look at this photo, for example:<br />http://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/Ata-300x297.jpg<br /><br />You can clearly see that the fetal parietal bones are all squished up, wholly accounting for the odd skull shape. The rest of the morphology is clearly fetal too and everything corresponds to a human at that stage of development. Greer and his companions are a total fraud, this should have been obvious to every open mind even before this embarassing episode. JHAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05216432598765143455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-91159940243964773792013-04-19T13:24:02.804-07:002013-04-19T13:24:02.804-07:00Hi Denelsbeck. I'm starting to like having thi...Hi Denelsbeck. I'm starting to like having this conversation. You do recall "science" many times, well, by previous knowledge you know that a baby is compose by more than 90% of water. Mummify it and you will loose it. And don't forget, the 15 weeks fetus barely reaches 3 inches of length. Well, that cannot be a mummified human being fetus of 15 weeks, and I won't say what the heck can be that thing, because I don't know, I just know what it cannot be. I will take your own words to finish this: "It's not a matter of believing the "first" explanation, however you might have determined that, but one that fits the evidence".Lucas Pachecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13809649209403498059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-70964711059450483722013-04-18T14:49:40.100-07:002013-04-18T14:49:40.100-07:00Lee Speigel has more information in the Huff Post ...Lee Speigel has more information in the Huff Post about the 'Atacamba humanoid':<br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/tiny-chile-alien-backgrou_n_3071767.html?utm_hp_ref=weird-news#slide=2330826<br /><br />Antonio Huneeus wrote the story of its supposed discovery: <br />http://www.openminds.tv/background-of-ufo-documentary-humanoid-alien-revealed-964/<br /><br />Also, as one commenter there noted, the creature is said to have a full set of teeth. If that is correct, it can't be a human fetus, as human infants have no teeth at all until well after birth.Robert Sheafferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-89138518498377968852013-04-18T10:33:30.230-07:002013-04-18T10:33:30.230-07:00Lucas Pacheco said:
"Hi Denelsbeck, I think y...Lucas Pacheco said:<br />"Hi Denelsbeck, I think you misjudge the Keightley's commentary. He says´'courage' because obviously some of us are resistent to ideas about changing the way we live or simply changing the way we perceive things."<br /><br />I have no doubt this is true, but you know, I don't see it in the slightest in the comments here, much less anyplace on this site. I see people commenting about the evidence (or lack thereof) and a whole lot of defensive rants. So who do you think needs this "courage"?<br /><br />"You folks gives too much faith to the government and to the mainstream media!"<br /><br />What "folks" would this be? Are you answering my comment? If so, kindly try dealing with what I've typed, rather than some imagined persona you would rather duel with.<br /><br />"Take your own conclusions! And to do that, you need to open your mind to ALL the possibilities, and not narrow your criteria over the general consensus and over the status-quo! "<br /><br />I am quite capable of forming my own conclusions, thanks all the same. I also don't see where I've actually expressed any.<br /><br />But, let me help you out. Dealing with "possibilities" is a child's game, pinning everything on hope and the unknown. I deal with <em>probabilities</em> instead - that requires both knowledge and evidence, and leads in far more useful directions. The "general consensus" that you refer to, most especially the rather vast body of knowledge we call "science," backs up everything with solid tests and dependable results - books and books full of them. So when it tells me how physics works and how firmly it's held together over the years, I have confidence in it. To destroy this confidence, I'm going to need a hell of a lot more than vague promises of what will be revealed, and the ludicrous appeal to "possibilities." Most especially from anyone involved in the UFO and paranormal fields, which have a track record that is beyond pathetic.<br /><br />It is perfectly rational to dismiss any and all such claims outright, based solely on this track record - one can only cry "wolf" so many times. You have the chance, however, of backing up anything you claim, from some of the few who are willing to give you a fair hearing. Don't abuse that privilege.Al Denelsbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984484059781405644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-27716266264962273352013-04-18T09:58:32.281-07:002013-04-18T09:58:32.281-07:00Lucas Pacheco said:
"Look what a baby of 15 w...Lucas Pacheco said:<br />"Look what a baby of 15 weeks lloks like<br />http://www.babycenter.com/fetal-development-images-15-weeks<br />the photograph above shows a humanoid with much taller limbs than a fetus, and the shape of the head is not even common.<br />Don't believe in the first explication you find! "<br /><br />You might try a real photo: http://www.urogenitalresearch.org/labs/labesdi.htm<br />... and recognize that the report said it was mummified, meaning tissue shrinkage is going to make it appear thinner/longer. Compare the length of the skull and ribcage to the limbs and see what you get.<br /><br />Then, of course, you can recognize that the chances of skull structure, rib structure, limb joints, and number of appendages matching humans, in a species evolved on another planet from different origins, is so farfetched as to strongly indicate this is of earthly origin.<br /><br />It's not a matter of believing the "first" explanation, however you might have determined that, but one that fits the evidence.Al Denelsbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984484059781405644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-7942317455487504452013-04-17T14:23:03.757-07:002013-04-17T14:23:03.757-07:00Look what a baby of 15 weeks lloks like
http://ww...Look what a baby of 15 weeks lloks like <br />http://www.babycenter.com/fetal-development-images-15-weeks<br />the photograph above shows a humanoid with much taller limbs than a fetus, and the shape of the head is not even common. <br />Don't believe in the first explication you find! Lucas Pachecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13809649209403498059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-67886834142887025312013-04-17T13:52:42.351-07:002013-04-17T13:52:42.351-07:00Hi Denelsbeck, I think you misjudge the Keightley&...Hi Denelsbeck, I think you misjudge the Keightley's commentary. He says´'courage' because obviously some of us are resistent to ideas about changing the way we live or simply changing the way we perceive things. You folks gives too much faith to the government and to the mainstream media! US government said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. Well, now THAT was a BIG hoax. Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction but what they did was change the price of their oil to Euros instead Dollar in 2000, and that put the PetroDollar system in relative danger. So, you will tell me that the US government don't do their cover ups? Go whatch Zeitgeist movie and see what they tell you about 9/11! I don't believe how is possible hear some people saying "if had exist intelligent extraterrestrial life NASA would inform us". NO! They won't! And why? Take your own conclusions! And to do that, you need to open your mind to ALL the possibilities, and not narrow your criteria over the general consensus and over the status-quo! <br />Salute to you, and stay well :)<br />Regards from Brasil.Lucas Pachecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13809649209403498059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-15698988528921889972013-04-16T11:18:27.376-07:002013-04-16T11:18:27.376-07:00Barry Karr has just posted this on the CSI website...Barry Karr has just posted this on the CSI website, and on Facebook. According to Luis Alfonso Gámez,<br /><br />"The little horned humanoid Steven Greer presents documentary on Sirius as an alien is, in fact, a human fetus. It is the conclusion reached in February 2007 the Spanish forensic anthropologist Francisco Etxeberria after examining the body at the request of the Institute for Research and Studies Exobiológicos (IISS), a UFO. "This is a mummified fetus of about 15 weeks gestation," ruled the scientist, who just days ago could not believe what Greer and colleagues argue that the DNA of the creature not of this world. "It is nonsense," he confirmed Etxeberria by email." (original in Spanish, translation by Google)<br />http://www.csicop.org/specialarticles/show/el_feto_humano_de_siriusRobert Sheafferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-86453431857079999432013-04-15T03:43:20.447-07:002013-04-15T03:43:20.447-07:00Who are the principals behind the 'Disclosure ...Who are the principals behind the 'Disclosure Project' apart from Greer? Are their names known? More important, have any of them actually seen a genuine unexplained UFO or have any been abducted? <br /><br />What is their relationship with the Paradigm Group (or whatever it is called) of Stephen Bassett? Have any of this latter group ever been abducted or threatened by government agents?<br /><br />I am reluctant to go to their websites.<br /><br />cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-32982190042228975562013-04-14T07:06:10.046-07:002013-04-14T07:06:10.046-07:00JUSTICE FOR SUNNY SHEU said:
"If the governme...JUSTICE FOR SUNNY SHEU said:<br />"If the government started killing everybody who is telling the truth on UFOs they would have to kill all the witnesses from the Disclosure Project and countless others."<br /><br /><em>All</em> of the witnesses from the Disclosure Project? You mean <em>not one</em> of them is mistaken, exaggerating, wonky, or a hoax? That would be an impressive track record... if it was believable.<br /><br />But, you see, here's the problem: every time I've asked how someone is so sure of their "truth," I don't get a useful answer. Never, not once, has anyone even remotely demonstrated that they have corroborated the accounts, or supported them with evidence, or done the least investigation into any of the cases, much less all of them. In fact, the only thing I've found to support "government involvement" <em>at all</em> has been the use of it as an excuse why there is no solid evidence - the government swooped in and took it all! Eyewitnesses have been threatened with silence - <em>that's</em> why so few back up the claims!<br /><br />And of course, when the logical holes of this tactic are shown, then all of a sudden the story changes to how bad it would be for the government to do exactly what the UFO chasers have been claiming for decades. Again, no support for this new claim - it's just another attempt to explain away inconsistencies.<br /><br />But the story remains the same: we don't have any evidence, yet we know it's "true." How?Al Denelsbeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13984484059781405644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-63040860042285774292013-04-13T20:57:12.457-07:002013-04-13T20:57:12.457-07:00I have to ask, from a logical standpoint, why woul...I have to ask, from a logical standpoint, why would Greer be threatened? <br />These claims have been going around for decades and nothing has really changed. So why would anyone bother? Based on his behavior, Greer doesn't seem to take it too seriously. <br />I'm under the impression that the covert arm of the government prefers more direct methods to mere threats.jozzcooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346278013676621644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-67005043891079997232013-04-13T20:05:15.570-07:002013-04-13T20:05:15.570-07:00If the government started killing everybody who is...If the government started killing everybody who is telling the truth on UFOs they would have to kill all the witnesses from the Disclosure Project and countless others.<br /><br />Greer has had death threats to him and his family, but if they took out Greer it would make his work that much more credible to the public, JUSTICE FOR SUNNY SHEUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02979337198868112133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-86197451343076220452013-04-13T20:00:39.575-07:002013-04-13T20:00:39.575-07:00I would say he is an honest man whose grip on real...I would say he is an honest man whose grip on reality is more solid than most of ours.<br />JUSTICE FOR SUNNY SHEUhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02979337198868112133noreply@blogger.com