tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post6040102110625529202..comments2024-03-29T02:10:02.587-07:00Comments on Bad UFOs: Skepticism, UFOs, and The Universe: British UFO Document Release is Really a Coverup, says UFO Abductee Nick PopeRobert Sheafferhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-54539868020585790812014-02-18T14:04:03.460-08:002014-02-18T14:04:03.460-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-13279905681604531552013-07-14T04:51:16.940-07:002013-07-14T04:51:16.940-07:00Robert, they've got you, so 'fess up. Your...Robert, they've got you, so 'fess up. Your disinformation campaign is the only thing now standing in the way of the truth. <br /><br />If not for the CSI, we'd be drinking coffee with aliens at Starbucks instead of forcing them to go incognito. You've seen pictures of these poor unfortunates from other worlds at a site devoted to pictures of people of a major retailer. It's tragic.<br /><br />National Geographic and the CIA. I love it. Someone tell me that this guy Hastings (any relation to Poirot's aide-de-camp?) doesn't really believe this stuff. He's like a pro wrestler, participating in a consensual fantasy for entertainment right?jozzcooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346278013676621644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-83340437717350213102013-07-14T04:32:29.978-07:002013-07-14T04:32:29.978-07:00I don't think it was designed to be a parallel...I don't think it was designed to be a parallel career- more like THE career. <br /><br />Oh, sorry, I meant to say there are aspects of Pope's employment which could be construed as having certain elements in common with what could be considered a possible interest in a projected future involvement in the UFO field, which Pope may or may not have had designs on, possibly.jozzcooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346278013676621644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-49084546081325051302013-07-14T04:12:00.157-07:002013-07-14T04:12:00.157-07:00"Further details can be found here" (pro..."Further details can be found here" (provides URLs directed back to his own website). It doesn't get more informative than that.jozzcooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10346278013676621644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-69820153803281075572013-07-14T03:34:22.536-07:002013-07-14T03:34:22.536-07:00Here's another comment from the files (DEFE 24...Here's another comment from the files (DEFE 24/2019/1) dated 2000 and written by a senior MoD official commenting upon an interview given by Pope about his work on the non-existent 'UFO project':<br />“…far from accurately representing the Department’s position [on UFOs], he [Nick Pope] has sought to embellish the truth at almost every turn.”<br />Embellish the truth?<br />So he was embellishing the truth in 2000 - supposedly working for MoD but running a parallel career as a UFO pundit in his spare time - all payed for by the taxpayer!<br />He left in 2006 and continues to embellish the truth today.<br />Why else would he write to MoD and demand they with-hold paperwork concerning his 'private business' working up a career in the UFO industry?<br />No wonder he wants to distract attention from his attempt to suppress these papers by attacking me personally.<br />Bottom line is Nick Pope has absolutely nothing useful to say about the content of the MoD UFO files. <br />But desperate to keep himself written into the story, he attacks me and works up a completely manufactured story to ensure people keep talking about him.<br />Well this strategy appears to have blown up in his face and even some of his sycophants appear to have recognised the fact that he has harmed what little credibility he had left.Dave Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17811372009688882929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-34976556175533828162013-07-14T03:17:34.824-07:002013-07-14T03:17:34.824-07:00Bob,
Nick Pope's description of Sheffield Hall...Bob,<br />Nick Pope's description of Sheffield Hallam University as a 'community college' will be news to the 33,000 students and 4,000 staff who work at what is actually the third largest university in the UK!<br />As far as I'm aware I have never described myself as a 'professor'. But I do have a doctorate and 20 years experience as an investigative journalist.<br />Pope, in contrast, flunked his law degree and used his family connections in the MoD (his father was senior scientist there_ to get him himself a job.<br />Perhaps that might explain his continued attempts to belittle both my experience and qualifications by side-stepping his own shortcomings.<br />I think Andre Skondras should check out the content of the UFO files themselves. If he did he might find this summmary, written by a senior Ministry of Defence official in 2006, that pretty much summarises what his own employers thought about him:<br />“…Mr Pope left Sec(AS) in 1994 and his knowledge of this issue, other than from publicly available sources, must be regarded as dated. Mr Pope elected to describe his position as the ‘Head of the MoD’s UFO Project’, a term entirely of his own invention, and he has used his experience and information he gathered (frequently by going beyond the official remit of his position) to develop a parallel career as a pundit on the topic, including writing several books, some purportedly non-fiction. Mr Pope constantly puts himself forward in various parts of the media, solicited and unsolicited, as an ‘expert’ (despite his lack of recent knowledge about the work carried on in the branch concerned) and seeks credit amongst other aficionados for having ‘forced’ MoD to reveal its ‘secret’ files on the subject. The latter is far from the truth, as we had begun publishing details of the most ‘popular’ reports in the Publication scheme, prior to the advent of the Freedom of Information Act. Mr Pope’s activities have nevertheless resulted in the generation of considerable workload for the stuff currently employed in responding to questions on this topic.” [DEFE 24/2092/1]<br /><br />I think that says it all. Pope is feeling the heat and rightly so. He has constructed a legend about himself that is patently false. Wake up people!Dave Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17811372009688882929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-36488946010150499452013-07-12T19:42:53.279-07:002013-07-12T19:42:53.279-07:00Now, Nick Pope has this email exchange with Andre ...Now, Nick Pope has this email exchange with Andre Skondras (which Pope gave permission to share). Clearly, Pope is taking a great deal of heat over this controversy.<br /><br />--------------<br /><br />Op 05 Jul 2013, om 09:24 heeft Nick Pope het volgende geschreven:<br /><br /> André,<br /><br /> A couple of factual corrections to Billy Cox's article:<br /><br /> 1. Dave Clarke is most certainly not a professor. He's what Americans would call a lecturer at a Community College (UK "polytechnics" like the one where he teaches won the right to call themselves universities many years ago).<br /><br /> 2. Clarke was one of literally hundreds of people making FOI requests to the MoD about UFOs in the run-up to the decision to release the files. Writing in 2006, Under Secretary of State for Defense Tom Watson said:<br /><br /> “There is a real and enduring interest in Unidentified Flying Objects. By far the most popular topic of FOI requests has been UFOs, followed by recruitment enquiries, enquiries from staff, and historical events such as World War Two, the Falklands conflict and the Balkans. Recent freedom of information releases on UFOs have attracted media interest from as far away as Japan.”<br /><br /> This is what led the MoD to decide to transfer its UFO files to the National Archives and if Clarke is claiming the credit for this, he's either being dishonest or incredibly naïve.<br /><br /> Best wishes,<br /><br /> Nick Pope<br /><br />Message Received: Jul 05 2013, 06:02 PM<br />From: "André Skondras"<br />To: "Nick Pope"<br />Cc:<br />Subject: Re: Dr. Clarke, I Neither Confirm Nor Deny!<br /><br />Hi Nick:<br /><br />Thanks for your additional comments. However, I heard from a source that the number one category of FOIA request was actually personnel records requests. <br /><br />I suppose the info you provided can't be share with other interested parties?<br /><br />Kind regards.<br /><br />André<br /><br /><br />André,<br /><br />The quote about the number of FOI requests on UFOs came from the Under Secretary of State for Defence, who is certainly a better source on this issue than any ufologist:<br /><br />http://www.hwh22.it/xit/S05_news/archivi/2006/maggio/04b.html<br /><br />I'm happy for you to share my comments with interested parties. I don't normally have time to read (let alone respond to) what ufologists write about me in the blogosphere, but given that I worked on MoD's UFO project, wrote many of the files that have recently been released and have been involved in release program, people look to me to correct any dishonest or mistaken claims that are being made on the subject. It's pretty insulting to the hundreds of other members of the public, journalists and ufologists who lobbied MoD on this issue and made FOI requests, if one ufologist tries to take credit for MoD releasing its UFO files!<br /><br />Further details about the background to the MoD UFO file release program can be found here:<br /><br />http://www.nickpope.net/mod-ufo-files.htm<br /><br />http://www.nickpope.net/ministry-of-defence-ufo-files.htm<br /><br />Best wishes,<br /><br />Nick PopeRobert Sheafferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15324537021429419111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-35515185799522930312013-07-11T12:28:51.543-07:002013-07-11T12:28:51.543-07:00There's yet another blog post pitching Clarke ...There's yet another blog post pitching Clarke against Pope at:<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/p236slr<br />(Huffington Post)<br /><br />I tried posting a comment there, but it exceed the word count limit, so it is posted in 3 parts (in the reverse order).Joe McGonaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06244493715061015508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-56077330250142842612013-07-08T11:39:15.063-07:002013-07-08T11:39:15.063-07:00I'm assuming that Pope will get more air time ...I'm assuming that Pope will get more air time on Coast to Coast. Let's hope that he is more "entertaining" than poor John Lash who was on the air last night! It appears that the New Agers that propagated the Mayan BS are attempting to harvest yet another crop for mass consumption.<br /><br />Pope should fit in quite nicely...Tim Heberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816425882305963295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-38773928509693546272013-07-08T01:07:17.081-07:002013-07-08T01:07:17.081-07:00Re: Pope's 'abduction': Here's a f...Re: Pope's 'abduction': Here's a first-person account from Chris Fowler, who was present at the premiere of the hoax Alien Autopsy film in London, May 1995, mentioned by Joe. Present during the conversation described were, among others, the late Reg Presley (bass player with The Troggs), John Holman, Kent Jeffery and Colin Andrews:<br />"....While we were all talking, Nick [Pope] came out with something that I found pretty weird, at least coming from him that is. He told us all that a few years ago, before he got the job at Air Staff 2a, he was on holiday with his girlfriend at the time in Florida and had what he described as a ‘missing road’ experience. He said that they were on a toll road and all of a sudden realised that they hadn’t passed the toll both they would have definitely gone through. When he told us this he didn’t even say anything like “listen, off the record, something weird happened once whilst I was on holiday in Florida....”. We were pretty amazed, especially when he also told us that he’d written a book on UFOs that was going to be published. Doing this would go on to make him one of the most well known faces of British Ufology."<br />To claim - as Pope does - that Jenny, by mentioning the fact that this story appeared in the first draft of Open Skies, was 'in breach of confidentiality' is just another example of the slippery character he is.<br /><br />Dave Clarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17811372009688882929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-17469636256096846962013-07-07T08:03:49.665-07:002013-07-07T08:03:49.665-07:00I see a lot of "hints" but no real direc...I see a lot of "hints" but no real direct statement of "I was abducted" or "A UFO appeared above my car". I agree, he basically states this happen but he appears to left himself an "out" to some extent, where he can change his story as he sees fit to cater to whoever he is speaking to. In a UFO forum, he will state that he had "experiences", while in a more conservative setting, he can say that he never claimed to have seen a UFO. Either he is a coward not to say what he believes or he is a dishonest individual more interested in deceiving people for his own benefit than pursuing the truth (as he claims).Tim Printyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115389684481839803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-56879199010215511872013-07-06T04:56:19.741-07:002013-07-06T04:56:19.741-07:00"The very furthest I would want to go is to s..."The very furthest I would want to go is to say that there are some events in my past which some people in the UFO lobby would say are some of the factors that are present in cases of abduction. But I want to stay on the fence until I know what happened to me.”<br /><br />Marvellous phraseology isn't it?<br /><br />Pope cannot, or will not, say what really happened to him, so he does what so many do, clouds it all in obfuscatory language (reminiscent of what politicians do when questioned over certain matters of policy). I predict he will be on that fence for a very, very long time, most likely forever. <br /><br />And I presume this event, whatever it was, was not on his CV when he got his MoD job. cdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01005702597775594084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-88049819700167803532013-07-06T03:06:52.051-07:002013-07-06T03:06:52.051-07:00@Terry:
Jenny Randles was asked to assess Pope'...@Terry:<br />Jenny Randles was asked to assess Pope's manuscript when it was sent to a publisher, and in the manuscript, the Peter and Jenny toll-gate story clearly identified Pope as the experiencer. Jane Goldman's book "The X-Files Book of the Unexplained" (Simon & Schuster 1995) includes the following from an interview with Pope: “…while Mulder’s desire is not just the truth, but also a resolution to the mystery of his sister’s disappearance, Nick Pope’s purpose is surely more straightforward. Or is it? ‘You could say that, like Fox Mulder, my interest is not purely an academic one and I’m driven by some personal motivations. My primary motivation is the intellectual belief that there is a genuine unknown phenomenon, and my belief in the people’s right to know, but a part of my motivation is a desire to explain some anomalous events in my own past.’…He is reluctant to go into detail but offers: ‘The very furthest I would want to go is to say that there are some events in my past which some people in the UFO lobby would say are some of the factors that are present in cases of abduction. But I want to stay on the fence until I know what happened to me.”<br /><br />At the "Alien Autopsy" premier in London, Pope told a group of ufologists quite openly about his experience.<br /><br />There is no doubt or confusion about this other than that that created by Pope himself. He even accused Jenny of a breach of confidentiality, for having mentioned her recollection of the story when the book was published. She hadn't read the published version and knowing of Pope's intention at the time she saw the manuscript to publish the details, saw no cause to conceal it.Joe McGonaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06244493715061015508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-21199603810286252672013-07-05T20:21:06.321-07:002013-07-05T20:21:06.321-07:00I should have noted: I think the last paragraph qu...I should have noted: I think the last paragraph quoted is the clincher. Perhaps Peter is just an ex-boyfriend of Pope's ex-girlfriend and she is the source, but in that case Pope could have just said, "No, I'm not Peter."<br /><br />(BTW, this is the same article Robert quoted at the top of the post.)Terry the Censorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13361088223337740598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-1170955993541476982013-07-05T20:14:07.078-07:002013-07-05T20:14:07.078-07:00February 7, 1999
Sunday Times of London
UFO hunter...February 7, 1999<br />Sunday Times of London<br />UFO hunter at MoD 'kidnapped by aliens'<br /><br />[excerpts]<br /><br />THE Ministry of Defence official who once headed investigations into unidentified flying objects believes he was abducted by aliens. Nick Pope, who ran the ministry's top secret Airstaff Secretariat office during the early 1990s, believes that he, his girlfriend and their car were abducted from a deserted toll road in Florida.<br /><br />He has described how he was lifted aboard an alien spacecraft and then wandered around its corridors - without, however, meeting any aliens.<br /><br />It was following this incident that he applied for the job heading the defence ministry department which collects all reported sightings of UFOs and related phenomena. He did not, however, enter details of his experience on the files since he was uncertain exactly what had happened to him and because he was worried he would be labelled a crank.<br /><br />He has alluded to the incident in his bestselling book The Uninvited, which claimed to expose the phenomenon of alien abductions. But only now has it emerged that one of the detailed descriptions of the several abductions was based on his own experience rather than on that of someone called Peter.<br /><br />This weekend, Pope refused to confirm or deny the claim that he was the "Peter" in the book. He said he was unable to speak because he had since broken up with his girlfriend and did not want to involve her.<br /><br />http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/News_Items-3.htm#2-7-99%20STL<br />Terry the Censorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13361088223337740598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-11543213476085229992013-07-05T19:56:54.653-07:002013-07-05T19:56:54.653-07:00sorry, "right" not write.sorry, "right" not write.Tim Printyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115389684481839803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-40203558648415635282013-07-05T19:56:07.203-07:002013-07-05T19:56:07.203-07:00Did I get this write in Cox's missive. Pope de...Did I get this write in Cox's missive. Pope denies being abducted or ever seeing a UFO. I thought he claimed this did occur in the book or someplace else? I never read the book since I felt it would be a waste of time/money. Can anybody provide a direct quote where he stated he saw a UFO or was abducted?Tim Printyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115389684481839803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-44848604876619417232013-07-05T17:00:14.443-07:002013-07-05T17:00:14.443-07:00As to Robert Hastings; 100% genuine. Is he not doi...As to Robert Hastings; 100% genuine. Is he not doing a public service by revealing to us that our elders from space have stepped in and saved us from nuclear war? <br /><br />UFO Prevent Nuclear Shots?<br />Read all about it at:<br />http://bitchworld.weebly.com/ufo-prevent-nuclear-shots.htmlPatrick Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04977532074196561369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-67008892804507565982013-07-04T18:26:32.873-07:002013-07-04T18:26:32.873-07:00And the irrepressible Billy Cox has just come up w...And the irrepressible Billy Cox has just come up with this:<br /><br />http://devoid.blogs.heraldtribune.com/13814/were-done-here-now-go-away/<br /><br />Those too short of time to run the link may be amused by Cox's attack-chihuahua savaging of David Clarke's heels, yapping that he doesn't address sundry celebrated UFO cases that, er, didn't occur anywhere near where the MoD's remit runs, such as those tired old Belgium triangles of 1990/1-odd, and so on. ["Attack chihuahua" © R. Sheaffer]<br /><br />The heart of the lettuce, though, is this, from Pope:<br /><br />“The only documents that I requested the MoD withhold are ones relating to my work as a freelance journalist, broadcaster and PR consultant. ... I took the view — and the MoD agreed — that documents relating to my business activities were private and should certainly not be passed to some of the more unpleasant characters who lurk on the fringes of ufology.”<br /><br />Neat piece of spin, Nick. Not quite what happened, as I understand it, and I don't think the MoD would care one way or other about the pleasantness of UK ufologists (Pope apart, judging from the marginal notes!), especially when one of them was handling the release of their files via the National Archives. Pope also says:<br /><br />"Clarke is one of a small group of UK ufologists who are absolutely obsessed with me, in view of my government work on UFOs. This bizarre groups of oddballs — which includes a deeply unpleasant individual who runs an anti-Semitic blog — have submitted multiple FOI requests to MoD about me and poison the blogosphere with incessant hate-filled rantings about my government work..."<br /><br />No, Nick, we're not obsessed. We'd just like you to be straight with the rest of us for a change. Oddballs? Probably. So? The blog in question isn't antisemitic, merely severely mistaken, as I (confirmed Zionist) have pointed out equally severely to the blogster: but that's got nothing to do with said blogster's ufological wherewithal. As for hate-filled rantings—yeah, yeah. Everyone I know (including me) who's met Pope seems to agree he's an amiable, affable and polite fellow; one went so far as to sleep with him for a while, so I have to suppose he can't be all bad, even if he does get a bit wobbly after the second bottle of Bollinger. One more time: We'd just like you to be straight with the rest of us for a change. So let's have some hate-filled quotes? No, thought not.<br /><br />Pope also remarks: "...as I'm the 'public face' of MoD's UFO project, ufologists tend to blame me for just about everything!" More fine spin... No longer the public face of the release of MoD files (guffaw), but of the "Mod's UFO project", which as it happens never did exist except in the febrile imagination of, um, Nick Pope. More guffaw.<br /><br />Readers may take this also as a response to John Harney, whose take on Pope as entertainer is not exactly inaccurate. But even satirists stay within the boundaries of the plausible. Pope creates and promotes an alternative universe, some of which is very unfunny indeed, but whose centre remains, immovably, himself. Still, this episode has made it pretty clear where he stands. Or spins.<br /><br />Peter B<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-54926148302504619252013-07-04T14:38:02.847-07:002013-07-04T14:38:02.847-07:00"Do we really know why Pope headed over to th..."Do we really know why Pope headed over to the States? ... Pope merely joins an all-too well known line-up of dreamers and schemers."<br /><br />I would have joked, "To be closer to George Noory," but Pope makes no secret of why he's here: entertainment business opportunities.<br /><br />http://www.nickpope.net/nick_pope_is_now_based_in_america.htm<br />zoamchomskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519698426338891542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-1196024709891342962013-07-04T01:27:19.388-07:002013-07-04T01:27:19.388-07:00Robert,
I am not at all clear on what you are cla...Robert,<br /><br />I am not at all clear on what you are claiming about Nick Pope. Clearly you know my position as you have quoted my own words in a previous posting of yours, but I would appreciate it if you would just say what you mean. Do you disagree with my own view - that he is nothing more than a paid 'face' who will do any UFO pr work for a buck - or not?Simon Sharmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00969585270917828855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-4988698377288742052013-07-02T11:48:47.905-07:002013-07-02T11:48:47.905-07:00Leaving Pope's wife aside, I think that Joe pr...Leaving Pope's wife aside, I think that Joe provides a good point concerning why Pope would come here to the States. If Pope's credibility is indeed damaged (to what extent?), then it is reasonable to assume that there is a greater market clamoring for his point of view.<br /><br />That Pope would "hitch his wagon" to Hastings shows poor judgement on his part (desperation?). Yet the same could be said of Hastings poor judgement collaborating with Pope.<br /><br />Both individuals thought content/process stand on rickety three legged stools, yet there are enough followers to catch both when they fall. Tim Heberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816425882305963295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-44800492547807533682013-07-02T10:54:05.227-07:002013-07-02T10:54:05.227-07:00> it would come as no surprise to me at all if ...> it would come as no surprise to me at all if she were just a convenient mechanism for Pope to obtain a working visa.<br /><br />Please, sir, that is going too far. Just because we don't respect Pope professionally, it does not mean we're allowed to invent unnecessarily hurtful information about his family.Terry the Censorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13361088223337740598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-34804492958651194362013-07-02T08:34:13.665-07:002013-07-02T08:34:13.665-07:00According to Pope's 'Tollgate' story (...According to Pope's 'Tollgate' story (THE UNINVITED p203-216), the event occurred on 3rd January,1991, a few months before he took up his role at Sec(AS). In Autumn, 1995 (about a year after leaving the post), the detail emerged under hypnosis (by Hopkins, I think).Joe McGonaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06244493715061015508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8104600450225406597.post-41712147560383753792013-07-02T06:19:42.898-07:002013-07-02T06:19:42.898-07:00@Tim:
According to Pope, he moved there to live w...@Tim:<br /><br />According to Pope, he moved there to live with his (then) new American wife. I feel sorry for her, it would come as no surprise to me at all if she were just a convenient mechanism for Pope to obtain a working visa. As I wrote in comments on Dave Clarke's article:<br /><br />"Nick Pope is only out to serve himself, and doesn’t mind whose back he clambers over to do so, or whose efforts he takes and presents as his own. His actual achievements in ufology are so pathetic that he needs to ‘borrow’ other people’s and exaggerate his own. I still don’t understand his current reluctance to discuss his toll-gate experience, he was not so coy in 1995. Maybe he is saving it up for when his ratings slump further, hoping the tale will revitalise his career as an entertainer of the gullible. In the meantime, he seems to be riding on the back of Peniston, Burroughs, et al. I am surprised any of those had time for him, given his track record on veracity, but then again, maybe there is another page in the magic binary, auto-updating notebook which told them to go to him…."Joe McGonaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06244493715061015508noreply@blogger.com