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Wednesday, February 4, 2015
From Mexico City on Cinco de Mayo - the Roswell Slides!
one of the speakers used the occasion to reveal evidence he called a "smoking gun."
"We have come into possession of a couple of Kodachrome color slides of an alien being lying in a glass case," author and researcher Thomas Carey told the near-capacity crowd in Abramson Recital Hall.
He's been researching the 1947 Roswell incident since 1991.
"What's interesting is, the film is dated 1947. We took it to the official historian of Kodak up in Rochester, New York, and he did his due diligence on it, and he said yes, this filmstrip, the slides are from 1947. It's 1947 stock. And from the emulsions on the image, it's not something that's been Photoshopped like today. It's original 1947 images, and it shows an alien who's been partially dissected lying in a case."
Carey says the being looked like what he thought an alien from the famous Roswell incident would look like.
"3 and a half to 4 feet tall, the head is almost insect-like. The head has been severed, and there's been a partial autopsy; the innards have been removed, and we believe the cadaver has been embalmed, at least at the time this picture was taken. The owners of the slide -- it's an amazing story. The woman was a high-powered Midland, Texas, lawyer with a pilot's license. We think she was involved in intelligence in World War II, and her husband was a field geologist for an oil company."
Carey says he plans to reveal the images early next year.
Mexico City?
On February 1, Kevin Randle's Blog hosted a guest entry by Anthony Bragalia, who is researching the background of the "Roswell slides." Bragalia, arguing forcefully for the authenticity of the slides, announced that the "reveal" of the slides would take place in Mexico City on May 5. Why in the world would slides of partially-autopsied Roswell aliens be revealed in a program in Mexico City? Bragalia did not explain why.
Dozens of comments quickly followed that piece, some of them asking why the "reveal" would take place in Mexico City, instead of in Roswell, or someplace in the U.S. Bragalia replied,
only the owner can answer that. I have indicated many times that we are only supporting his efforts in research and that any decisions about venue or manner of reveal is his alone. But why not? The official public announcement of the slides was made at American University in DC. Why not have the reveal of an item of global import be broadcast internationally and outside of the US? You are a Brit yourself, CDA yet you take extreme interest in Roswell. Don't be so US-centric.
Having taken a "Mexico UFO tour" back in 1996 (see chapter 21 of my book UFO Sightings), I was already quite familiar with the UFO and paranormal-related media empire of one Jaime Maussan, who has made himself quite wealthy by promoting highly-dubious claims about aliens and such in Mexico. He spent quite a bit of time with us, and showed us the inner workings of his dubious paranormal promotional enterprise. I posted the following comment:
Mexico City. Does this mean that Jamie Maussan will be involved?
It's hard to imagine any UFO dog-and-pony show in Mexico City that
doesn't involve him.
11:53 AM
In Mexico, Maussan is like Art Bell, George Noory, and Steven Greer, all rolled up into one. For quite a while, nobody answered that question. Then BINGO - the following Youtube announcement video was posted:
When Maussan's involvement was revealed, a collective groan was heard from
just about everybody who knows anything about current UFOlogy. Anyone who has gone to a UFO conference anywhere in the last twenty years has likely heard a talk by Maussan, making wild claims and showing highly-dubious photos and videos. He is considered one of the least-credible UFO personalities active today. The page for ALCIONE (in Spanish) lists "more than 40 frauds" that Maussan has promoted. Tim Printy also has some interesting comments about Maussan.
An ad promoting Maussan's 2009 'alien revelation' show in Mexico City. "ET Contact" was "immanent" six years ago.
Why is Maussan involved in the matter of the "Roswell slides?" We don't yet know for sure, but presumably "the owner" sold the rights to the slides to the highest bidder, and the highest bidder was Maussan. It is also reported that a TV program about the slides is in production, but nobody in the know has publicly commented on this.
Under "Great Mysteries of the Third Millennium," Maussan presents a video of a horse flying across the sky.
In this video, Maussan is interviewing Adam Dew. From what he says, it appears that Dew is the person who obtained these "Roswell slides," and brought them forward. Thus it appears that Dew is claiming to be "the owner" of the slides. However, I asked Bragalia if Dew is the owner; he replied that Dew is not. (Perhaps that is true on a technicality - Dew may have sold the slides to Maussan?)
If you want to see lots of weird-looking creatures, go to Google Images and type in Jaime Maussan Aliens. Along those lines, here is a video of Maussan showing us aliens. Lots and lots of them. Don't worry if you can't understand the Spanish; he's just showing off his collection of photos and videos of aliens. And as of el prossimo Cinco de Mayo, Maussan will have two more photos of aliens to add to his already-impressive collection.
Before yesterday, I never heard of Jaime Maussan. His wiki bio is squeaky clean, almost impressive for an investigative journalist. Read Printy's piece and have a clearer picture.
So does having the big show on Cinco de Mayo have any significance?
Actually, I publicly suspected Maussan might become involved the instant Rich Reynolds mentioned Mexico City a year ago. In SUNlite 6-2 (almost a year ago), I had stated in the Roswell corner: "Another item Rich Reynolds leaked out was the location for the great reveal might be in Mexico City but the Roswell investigative team prefers another location. If it is Mexico City, is it possible that Jaimie Maussan has become involved? If so, it might explain a lot and does not really help promote the idea of a proper investigation." This continues to look like a circus and I doubt that it will change anybody's mind. It is not verifiable evidence for an alien body. All it is is evidence for an image of some strange body. There are plenty of those here on earth and we do not need to go into outer space to find them.
Gee, I don't know, Dr. Could it be that the minds making up this nonsense aren't very, ah, inventive? Then again, their audience requires confirmation, they want to hear the same grand cosmic conspiracy themes repeated endlessly, so Carey and Schmitt are guaranteed success by sticking with the same old "crashed saucer and little alien bodies" yarn.
The Believers are reassured of their volatile beliefs by this sameness and misinterpret it as an indication of the truth of what is otherwise utterly unbelievable, but the reality is that it's a sad failure of imagination--as a better writer once said.
Well let's see now. Quite apart from the mysterious discovery of these slides long after the (alleged) original owners had died, thus making their history impossible to trace, we've got this statement from an expert who works for Kodak:
"What's interesting is, the film is dated 1947. We took it to the official historian of Kodak up in Rochester, New York, and he did his due diligence on it, and he said yes, this filmstrip, the slides are from 1947. It's 1947 stock. And from the emulsions on the image, it's not something that's been Photoshopped like today. It's original 1947 images, and it shows an alien who's been partially dissected lying in a case."
Assuming the man from Kodak to be a real person, competent at his job, and telling the truth, what did he literally say, according to that quote? That it's a real photo on real film, not a modern digital fake (which doesn't rule out a genuine photo of a fake alien, of course), and that the film stock dates from 1947.
But where on a slide is the date code? If it's on the film itself, it must be on a part of it hidden inside the cardboard sleeve, otherwise you'd get unwanted numbers appearing when you projected your slides, therefore he can't have checked it unless he took the sleeve apart, which I bet he wasn't allowed to do!
If, on the other hand, it's printed on the sleeve, it doesn't seem to me that it would be impossible to dismantle an old cardboard-covered slide very carefully and replace the transparency inside the authentic 1947 sleeve with a much more recent photo.
Microscopic examination would of course reveal that it had been tampered with, but is that the sort of thing a photographic historian who doesn't normally investigate fraud would think to look for? Did he in fact do anything whatsoever apart from checking the number on the sleeve?
We had the fiasco of Ray Santilli's alien autopsy film exactly 20 years ago. We have had various alleged bits and pieces of Roswell hardware produced, or promised, from time to time. We had, and still have, a photo of the infamous piece of paper in General Ramey's hand, which is (or was) going to reveal the great truth. We have had all manner of 'witnesses' and story-tellers repeating ad nauseam how they either saw 'aliens', or knew someone who saw them (or even heard of someone who knew someone who saw them) since the first book on this story came out in 1980.
Now, at last, we are (allegedly) getting the real thing. This is surely the greatest news of all time. And moreover, it is timed to be the day before the UK has its general election. That guy Jaime Maussan MUST be a genius!
This business about the "Roswell slides" has been positively exploding over the last few days. It's almost impossible to keep up. Here are a few new significant links about it:
If this Mexico City presentation flops, as it likely will, would anyone care to predict how long it will be before the next piece of 'Roswell was ET' evidence is presented? Or is it now all such a shambles that it will be cancelled before May 5 anyway?
Kodak stopped making or even developing Kodachrome several years ago - Kodachrome has a distinct relief image on the emulsion (non shiny reversed image) side that one does not see on E-6 (Ektachrome and Fuji slides, which are still being made). If anyone gets close to the slides, this is something to check for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW5Mhxu1kq0
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Before yesterday, I never heard of Jaime Maussan. His wiki bio is squeaky clean, almost impressive for an investigative journalist. Read Printy's piece and have a clearer picture.
ReplyDeleteSo does having the big show on Cinco de Mayo have any significance?
Actually, I publicly suspected Maussan might become involved the instant Rich Reynolds mentioned Mexico City a year ago. In SUNlite 6-2 (almost a year ago), I had stated in the Roswell corner:
ReplyDelete"Another item Rich Reynolds leaked out was the location for the great reveal might be in Mexico City but the Roswell investigative team prefers another location. If it is Mexico City, is it possible that Jaimie Maussan has become involved? If so, it might explain a lot and does not really help promote the idea of a proper investigation."
This continues to look like a circus and I doubt that it will change anybody's mind. It is not verifiable evidence for an alien body. All it is is evidence for an image of some strange body. There are plenty of those here on earth and we do not need to go into outer space to find them.
"a field geologist for an oil company.."
ReplyDeleteWhy does that sound so familiar...?
Because you read Frank Scully's book?
DeleteGee, I don't know, Dr. Could it be that the minds making up this nonsense aren't very, ah, inventive? Then again, their audience requires confirmation, they want to hear the same grand cosmic conspiracy themes repeated endlessly, so Carey and Schmitt are guaranteed success by sticking with the same old "crashed saucer and little alien bodies" yarn.
DeleteThe Believers are reassured of their volatile beliefs by this sameness and misinterpret it as an indication of the truth of what is otherwise utterly unbelievable, but the reality is that it's a sad failure of imagination--as a better writer once said.
Well let's see now. Quite apart from the mysterious discovery of these slides long after the (alleged) original owners had died, thus making their history impossible to trace, we've got this statement from an expert who works for Kodak:
ReplyDelete"What's interesting is, the film is dated 1947. We took it to the official historian of Kodak up in Rochester, New York, and he did his due diligence on it, and he said yes, this filmstrip, the slides are from 1947. It's 1947 stock. And from the emulsions on the image, it's not something that's been Photoshopped like today. It's original 1947 images, and it shows an alien who's been partially dissected lying in a case."
Assuming the man from Kodak to be a real person, competent at his job, and telling the truth, what did he literally say, according to that quote? That it's a real photo on real film, not a modern digital fake (which doesn't rule out a genuine photo of a fake alien, of course), and that the film stock dates from 1947.
But where on a slide is the date code? If it's on the film itself, it must be on a part of it hidden inside the cardboard sleeve, otherwise you'd get unwanted numbers appearing when you projected your slides, therefore he can't have checked it unless he took the sleeve apart, which I bet he wasn't allowed to do!
If, on the other hand, it's printed on the sleeve, it doesn't seem to me that it would be impossible to dismantle an old cardboard-covered slide very carefully and replace the transparency inside the authentic 1947 sleeve with a much more recent photo.
Microscopic examination would of course reveal that it had been tampered with, but is that the sort of thing a photographic historian who doesn't normally investigate fraud would think to look for? Did he in fact do anything whatsoever apart from checking the number on the sleeve?
We had the fiasco of Ray Santilli's alien autopsy film exactly 20 years ago. We have had various alleged bits and pieces of Roswell hardware produced, or promised, from time to time. We had, and still have, a photo of the infamous piece of paper in General Ramey's hand, which is (or was) going to reveal the great truth. We have had all manner of 'witnesses' and story-tellers repeating ad nauseam how they either saw 'aliens', or knew someone who saw them (or even heard of someone who knew someone who saw them) since the first book on this story came out in 1980.
ReplyDeleteNow, at last, we are (allegedly) getting the real thing. This is surely the greatest news of all time. And moreover, it is timed to be the day before the UK has its general election. That guy Jaime Maussan MUST be a genius!
This business about the "Roswell slides" has been positively exploding over the last few days. It's almost impossible to keep up. Here are a few new significant links about it:
ReplyDeletehttp://redstarfilms.blogspot.ca/2015/02/the-roswell-slides-and-bad-history.html
http://redstarfilms.blogspot.ca/2015/02/the-roswell-slides-doa.html
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/jamie_maussan.htm
http://timhebert.blogspot.ca/2015/02/alien-slides-show-extravaganza-gets.html
http://www.openminds.tv/roswell-ufo-alien-photo-details-revealed-videos/32066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL0MvHpieaE
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-dew/7/163/2b9
The above list is far from complete. More stuff is constantly appearing.
Indeed, cda, there has been quite a history of 'smoking guns' supposedly related to the foil and sticks found near Roswell.
ReplyDeleteIs this the same guy who promoted the "squirrel monkey" as an alien?
ReplyDeleteYep!
DeleteThe Screamin’ Demon of Mexico: Monkey Business
http://forgetomori.com/2009/skepticism/demnio-capturado-no-mxico/
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ReplyDeleteIf this Mexico City presentation flops, as it likely will, would anyone care to predict how long it will be before the next piece of 'Roswell was ET' evidence is presented? Or is it now all such a shambles that it will be cancelled before May 5 anyway?
ReplyDeleteI say again, Chris;
DeleteNobody ever went broke underestimating the gullibility of the central american republic. (g)
So, I predict no flop. (Yes, I know Mexico is geographically North America, but culturally....)
and
[It's] nothing but a carnival sideshow revival with a Roswell spin.
Hype; freak show; fascinated but ultimately disappointed suckers separated from their cash.
But I doubt very much that the shameless Roswell hucksters give a damn; they'll do it all over again when the carnival next comes to town.
DOS EQUIS BEER Presents:
ReplyDeleteJaime Maussan - “The Most Interesting Man in Ufology”…
He can speak Spanish. Fluently.
When the “extraterrestres” arrive, they’ll land on his front lawn not at the White House.
When abducted by aliens, he’s the one that does the probing.
He once made an alien from a dead squirrel monkey.
Aliens take videos of him and post it on YouTube.
His mind can be both open and closed at the same time.
“Stay gullible, my friends.”
@TS4072
DeleteFor sure, I am going to steal some of those lines! I don't know when, but I am pretty certain of it.
Nice work.
Kodak stopped making or even developing Kodachrome several years ago - Kodachrome has a distinct relief image on the emulsion (non shiny reversed image) side that one does not see on E-6 (Ektachrome and Fuji slides, which are still being made). If anyone gets close to the slides, this is something to check for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW5Mhxu1kq0
ReplyDelete