Well, it's February again, and so here I am once again at at Ft. McDowell, Arizona, not far from Phoenix, for the 23rd annual International UFO Congress, the largest UFO conference in the world. Once again, my resolution is to not Blog extremely long passages, just brief ones - if I can stick to it.
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Government agents bombard the International UFO Congress with Chemtrails to try to disrupt the conference, without success. |
The Congress began on Wednesday, February 12, and the first speaker was Ted Peters, whose subject was
UFO Abductions: Are They Spiritial? In a nutshell, the answer apparently is "yes." Peters is a professor of Systematic Theology at Pacific Lutheran Theological Seminary, a man who obviously knows his religious history and comparative theology. I wrote about
Peters' talk at the 2011 MUFON UFO Symposium,
where the title of his talk was "Will ET Contact End World Religions?"
The short answer was "no," he did a survey of various religious
grouips, and found that practically nobody viewed 'beings on other
worlds' as a threat to their faith.
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Ted Peters |
Peters gave some examples of the parallels between UFO encounters and religious thought. UFO abductee Dick Johnson said he is not religious, but his alleged ET contacts conform to the Celestial Savior model. And, he notes, these days the Celestial Savior often offers Eco-Salvation. Even the statements about ETs by SETI scientist Jill Tartar conform to several of these religious categories. He suggests what is needed is a process of "demythologizing" such religious-tinged accounts. Reject the substance of the myth, but retain the transcendant God behind the myth.
He discussed the history of Hypnotic Regression to help supposed experiencers remember, from Betty and Barney Hill to the Satanic cults of Michelle Remembers to the daycare satanic molestation panic.
The next speaker was UFO Disclosure-Man himself, Stephen Bassett of the Paradigm Research Group (PRG). They are the ones who produced
last year's farcical "Citizens Hearing" on UFOs, so ineffective that Google Trends actually recorded
a decrease in interest in UFOs as it unfolded. His Disclosure Petition VI, asking for Congressional Hearings on UFOs, goes up on the White House's
We The People website in April, needing 100,000 signatures in 30 days.
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Stephen Bassett |
Bassett insists that his PRG can "checkmate" the government's position within four months (that would be June 12). The Truth Embargo can be ended this year! He is mailing out complete DVD sets of his Citizens Hearing to all members of Congress, and to U.S. Ambassadors. When they see this, they will be astonished. Soon a full media storm will be unleashed, which nothing can resist! Unfortunately, PRG lost a bunch of money that it had invested in silver assets when gold and silver tanked, money they must now get back. What kind of business is it that keeps its working capital invested in silver assets? A foolish one, as any banker will tell you.
Bassett acts and speaks exactly like everybody's image of a paranoid Conspiracy Theorist, which alone is enough to guarantee that he will never be taken seriously by the major media. However, he was extremely popular with the conference audience, who gave him a standing ovation.
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Kim Carlsberg |
The next speaker was Kim Carlsberg, titled "My Secret Life Comes Full Circle," in which she told of her many, many, many UFO abductions over the years. She showed some video clips from a movie based on Budd Hopkins' abduction-finding, depicting a woman on a table being examined by aliens. "Those tables are really cold," she added.
Alien fetuses are apparently somewhat smaller than human ones, so that an earth woman carrying one hardly even notices it. She was asked to breastfeed, and to hold, hybrid fetuses, and she talked about her various alien children. In fact, she has seven alien grandchildren!
Once she woke up in a tank of liquid, and was forced to breathe it in. Somehow, she was able to survive. One time she went camping in the California desert, and woke up on another world.
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Mike Clelland and his friend Cynthia. Both report abduction-type experiences. |
Next was Mike Clelland, speaking on "Owls, Synchronicity, and the UFO Abductee." He lives in the Tetons, Wyoming, and is a very outdoorsy guy. He described various camping adventures in which he and female companions encountered owls in spooky circumstances. He began looking into UFO incidents allegedly involving owls, and gradually became obsessed with owls, to the point where he even questioned his own sanity. Owls might be, he explained, a "screen memory": what you remember are owls, but what you really saw were aliens. He delved into the mythologies of owls, Jungian archetypes, and all that.
Driving home from this very same conference last year, at his campsite in a remote area Clelland saw a formation of lights on a hilltop, a round structure, looking exactly like a landed UFO. And there is no structure at that spot. What all this means, he admits he does not know, but if he finds out, he will certainly post in on his Blog
Hidden Experience.
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Robert Powell |
The last speaker of the day was Robert Powell, MUFON's Director of Research since 2007, on "UFOs & Government: The Historical and Changing Role of Government Over Time." He gave a fairly standard history of Project Sign, Project Grudge, Project Bluebook, the Robertson Panel, etc. Most of this is stuff most of us have heard many times, although I'm sure many at the conference have not. Also he talked about his favorite cases, including the RB-47 case, which
recent work by Tim Printy pretty well takes apart. He has a theory of why the ET showed up during and after WWII (a recent UFO trend is to try to push back the start of the modern saucer era from Arnold and 1947 to WWII itself): the ETs detected radioactive isotopes in our atmosphere, and came to check it out. If that's correct, the E.T.s must have been hanging out pretty nearby, as the flash of light from the Hiroshima bomb had not even gotten halfway to the nearest star, Alpha Centauri, when Kenneth Arnold saw his nine flying boomerangs.
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DeleteMy 1989 Toyota Camry is leaking oil.
"Do you have any problem you need to solve?"
I can't figure out how to use my TV remote control.
"A pending court case you want to resolve in your favor?"
Of course, and I swear I'm innocent. I didn't know the gun was loaded.
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I am living the dream! I drive a bad-ass '89 Camry (leaks oil) and work in a windowless fabric-covered cubicle where I stared at a computer screen for 8 hours.
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one you love reciprocate and appreciate that love?"
Ain't that the truth, my wife and girlfriend are like that.
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I'm innocent I swear, even though I did get caught red-handed and there were dozens of witneses.
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DeleteMD, how do you know about that? It costs a lot less to stay in the RV park than in the hotel!
DeleteThis conference is like your own version of MST3K, Robert. People nearby have to notice you smirking at some of the wild claims being made.
ReplyDeleteI wonder why 4 months is pegged for lifting the truth embargo. Bassett gets more second chances than Steve Howe.
Did Carlsberg's family and friends notice her frequent disappearances? Perhaps some of the hybrid biological material can be recovered from her. I've no doubt that Steve Greer could find something.
It was the owls all along! We never saw it coming.
What did the alien/owl say to Kim Carlsberg after an abduction?
Delete"Owl be back."
Bumper sticker seen on Kim Carlsberg's mini-van:
"My Alien/Hybrid Child
is a HONOR STUDENT at
Zeta Reticulum Middle School"
New bumper sticker: My alien/hybrid child can probe your honor student.
DeleteMost of these individuals strike me as being schizophrenic and delusional, especially Kim Carlsberg. I'd like to see them thoroughly tested by expert psychiatrists.
ReplyDeleteI read this report and thought, "There's a certain thread here. What do these people have in common?" Then I thought, "Narcissistic personality disorder with 'UFO' mythos delusions." It's all about them and their fantasy world.
Deletehttp://badufos.blogspot.com/2013/02/ufos-in-desert-part-1.html
How to make themselves the center of attention in this bizarre world of the longest running pop-culture delusion in history by spinning their own ideosyncratic yarn appears to be the game. And if one can go to conferences, get on late-night radio, write a book, sell it and make a little money off of what is limited only by their imaginations, while sticking to the basics of the culturally supplied script, then all the better.
These people may seem nice in public, but talk to them online as I have, and it only takes a few exchanges for them to expose themselves as irrational, thoroughly antiscientific and generally nasty anti-intellectual misanthropes. When I encountered one of the speakers online last year he offered only the same tired "UFO" cranky dodges and then name-calling that I've heard from "UFO" Believers online for more than twenty years.
To have expected any better from him would have been unrealistic. It's curious how people react badly to having their false beliefs about the world exploded in their faces! LOL Why, you'd think they'd be more appreciative. }:-)
"Owls might be, he explained, a "screen memory": what you remember are owls, but what you really saw were aliens."
ReplyDeleteIf you knew anything about Mike, you'd realize (1) he doesn't like the term 'abductee'; and (2) The cliched owl/screen memory meme is no the main focus of his interest with owls.
From his blogpost "I now know", written in March 22nd, 2013:
"I am now unable to cling to that former identity of "not" knowing. I now know. I am directly intertwined with the UFO reality.
I hate the term abductee and all it's baggage. That title is way too simplistic, but that's probably the best term to define what's been going on with my life. That said, I am convinced that at the source of this mystery there is something far more complex and far more bizarre than we dare imagine. The inadequate words abductee, experiencer and contactee all seem flat in the face of this elaborate puzzle."
Thanks for the updates, Robert. Looking forward to reading more.
ReplyDeleteMust be happy again Robert. Time to spray all the nutbag UFOlogists season again. But I am more concerned with the "Humidity" content over Arizona at the moment.
ReplyDeleteCould you have not waited for the "contrails" in your above photo to have dissolved/dissapated into that extremely warm looking blue sky before taking a picture?
They do look a lot like persistent chemtrails to me.......
Most of the UFO phenomenon is about the govt cover-up, but since I have been looking into Chemtrails, this topic is absolutely TABOO, & comments are automatically deleted, & anyone that starts their own site is sytematically disected by Mick West & the boys at Metabunk.
Dutchsinse has had his site taken down by Google 5 times. NSA?
Is there a connection, because I was under the impression the NSA was started to control the hype about UFOs back in the 50s?
The whistleblowers are starting to comeout(similar to astronauts & pilots in reguards to UFOs) about the introduction of Project Cloverleaf in the 90s.
The "Welsbach Patent" describes adding micron sized AL particules to jet fuel.
But, once again, our friends in the USAF have a document "Owning the Weather by 2025" as a full spectrum dominance & the ultimate WMD.
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A true skeptic should question what he is being told & does it conform to actual observations.
I am observing Chemtrails(even in your photo),Alaskan heatwave & all the documents point to HAARP as the method.
I am getting a sore neck! I look up at the night skies for UFOs, & now I am looking up at the daytime skies for Chemtrails. I should sue the US govt for compensation!
The whole idea that the a-bomb explosions caught ET's attention is utter nonsense. How did they (ET) detect what is, by nuclear standards, a very small explosion and identify it as "man-made" compared to all the other radiation that is emitted from the sun.
ReplyDeleteBassett's nonsense is nothing new. He will keep coming up with promises and failing to deliver. The press and congress see him for what he is. A UFO nut, who is just trying to steal people's money. Did he really invest the money that people gave him in Silver as a source of making more money? Ouch.....I thought it was a "non-profit" organization.
> Bassett...The press and congress see him for what he is. A UFO nut
DeleteUfologists see him that way too.
Jerome Clark in 2011, regarding one of Bassett's disclosure petitions:
"This is the sort of thing that makes all ufologists look like
dupes setting themselves up for ridicule, in this case deserved.
"I urge all self-respecting students of the phenomenon to keep
their distance. And if that makes me an agent of the CIA, the
MIB, the Deros, the International Bankers, the
Cryptoterrestrials, the Illuminati, or whomever, so be it."
http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2011/nov/m22-001.shtml
Take no offense, Terry, but this is entirely typical ufoolergists' back-biting. As if being only fractionally less nutty than Bassett makes Jerry Clark and Leslie Kean appear rational. It doesn't.
DeleteClark, Kean and other self-styled ufoolergists' enhanced retellings of long and repeatedly debunked flying-saucer fairy tales and hoaxes is nothing that any truly rational person considers admirable, considerable, productive, or even very interesting. So what they're doing is every bit as ridiculously useless as Bassett and Greer's sideshows.
We're all familiar with "UAP are Real!" Kean and her laughably credulous fall for the Chilean flies video. And those who have read Clark's exchanges with the Magonians, particularly Rimmer, on "Updates" for the last decade or more know that Jerry was always failing to support his claims and so embarrassingly always on the losing end. I asked him once to document a pre-1896 airship claim, but he never did. Why? Because he knew the story wasn't what he pretended it to be--they never are.
And there's a very simple reason for that, one Jerry may have finally learned to appreciate now that he sees the tired old "UFO" myth and delusion evaporating before his eyes: In the real-world, there is no rational, factual story that ends in the extraordinary, a real "UFO." The only way one ever finds "UFO" gold is at the end of a load of prevarication and logical fallacy-laden BS, or in FS fairy tales. :-D
If one really believes that the "UFO" non-issue is even remotely undecided, he's suffering under a media-manufactured and perpetuated myth and pop-culture delusion. There is no "UFO" phenomenon of any kind and there never was. The very idea is absurd, as if there could be some unknown thing haunting Earth's atmosphere and nearspace and we could be somehow unaware of its existence except through subjective reports. Not only not very likely but effectively impossible.
After reading your account, and after reading previous accounts of recent UFO conferences I can only say:
ReplyDelete"Come back Adamski, all is forgiven".
By the way, didn't NICAP long predate Stephen Bassett (by something like 50 years) in sending copies of their petitions to every member of congress? NICAP once sent their grand report entitled UFO EVIDENCE to each and every member of congress in c. 1964. So even here, he is highly unoriginal.
Is TS4072 going to produce a book containing all the best UFO jokes soon?
I sincerely hope so.
"An Englishman, an Irishman, a Welshman and a Scotsman are taken aboard a 'UFO'...."
Delete> Is TS4072 going to produce a book containing all the best UFO jokes soon?
ReplyDelete> I sincerely hope so.
TS4072, your public awaits!
Tim, you stated the following:
ReplyDelete"The whole idea that the a-bomb explosions caught ET's attention is utter nonsense. How did they (ET) detect what is, by nuclear standards, a very small explosion and identify it as "man-made" compared to all the other radiation that is emitted from the sun."
Part of the problem with your statement is that it is based on statements that Robert S. did not report properly. In my presentation I said that the first opportunity for an extraterrestrial species, that was roughly 30 years more advanced that us, to determine that intelligent life existed on this planet was around 1930 when incandescent light was first used. (We are not that far off from being able to mask out a planet's sun so that the spectra of the planet can be obtained.) The presence of a distinct wavelength of light on the side of our planet facing away from our sun would indicate the likelihood of intelligent life capable of producing artificial light. That is 14 years prior to the first foo fighters that were seen in WW-2.
I went on to say that isotopes of cesium, strontium, plutonium, and uranium have been left in our atmosphere and would be further evidence during the 1950s of intelligent life existing on our planet. I was not talking about radiation as stated. I was talking about the isotopic ratios of chemicals released during a nuclear explosion. Spectroscopic analysis of extra solar planets is already ongoing.
Robert, February 17, 2014 at 6:05 PM:
Delete"In my presentation I said that the first opportunity for an extraterrestrial species, that was roughly 30 years more advanced that us, to determine that intelligent life existed on this planet was around 1930 when incandescent light was first used."
I am confused. Looking at Wikipedia, I see that incandescent light bulbs based on tungsten were commercially available since the beginning of the 1900s.
Robert, February 17, 2014 at 6:05 PM:
"The presence of a distinct wavelength of light on the side of our planet facing away from our sun would indicate the likelihood of intelligent life capable of producing artificial light."
Except that the spectrum of incandescent light bulbs look like a blackbody of a certain temperature, without a distinct wavelength.
Maybe you mean mercury-vapour lamps, instead of incandescent light bulbs.
Robert Powell;
ReplyDeleteYour seemingly thoughtful "clarification" really doesn't help what is an utterly ridiculous case for the old-time ETH:
Detection of a very few extrasolar planets is by reflected stellar light--not what would be the impossible-to-detect incandescent light generated by hypothetical ET, as that by us on Earth. Even if it were so impossibly bright as to be detected from many light-years, how would this "distinct wavelength" of incandescent light be distinguished from the all-inclusive full range of stellar light? ...It couldn't be.
And your very similar misconception about the detection of contaminants in exoplanetary atmospheres meets a similar objection. The relatively trace amounts of radioisotopes present in the atmospheres of planets inhabited by technologically advanced civilizations, even if detected across many light-years, would be lost against the background of the very same universally, naturally occurring elements, so that their detections would be inconclusive at best.
So any miniscule amount of the physical trace of our activity--a mere drop in a cosmic ocean--could hardly be a beacon across light-years. We know the idea of "interstellar nuclear detonation EM burst detection" is utterly preposterous, so all of your hypothetical methods of ET detection--or of us by ET--are merely wishful, speculative fantasies, pseudoscientific add-ons to keep the dead ETH walking.
But by far the most absurd suggestion in all of this nonsense is that there might be a nearby ET civilization "roughly 30 years more advanced than us" who--by whatever means of detection--might "determine that intelligent life existed on this planet;" and they would immediately jump into their flying-saucer spacecraft, zip over to Earth across the light-years to be reported as ambiguous and completely inconsequential "UFOs" at exactly the time we're entering the air and nearspace.
A nearby ET civilization "roughly 30 years more advanced than us." His "UFO" pop culture-scripted mythos precedes and determines an astronomical reality! Why not "30 MILLION years more advanced?" That might at least be plausible.
Zoam..., For starters I did not address you, I addressed Tim. Second, I never said that an alien civilization 30 years more advanced than us could reach us. I said that a civilization 30 years more advanced than us would have sufficient capability to identify the spectra of our atmosphere's chemical constituents. Third, it is clear from your comments that if you have any science background at all you must have blundered through your studies. Your understanding of chemistry certainly needs some serious work.
ReplyDeleteRobert Powell: "Zoam..., For starters I did not address you, I addressed Tim.
DeleteIt's a Scientific-realists message board. Are your pseudoscientific speculative fantasies somehow immune to scientifically literate, especially astronomical and astrobiological, skeptical criticisms? Doesn't the self-styled ufoolergist want to finally learn something about real astronomical and exobiological considerations from some who very obviously do know just a bit more about these subjects?
RP: "Second, I never said that an alien civilization 30 years more advanced than us could reach us."
"[Powell] has a theory of why the ET ["UFOs"] showed up during and after WWII...: the ETs detected radioactive isotopes in our atmosphere, and came to check it out."--Sheaffer
I suppose we all somehow misunderstand why you're spinning this old-time ETH-apologist yarn at a "UFO" conference then, huh? So what IS the point of your astronomically misconceived and confused, if not completely ignorant, nonsense if not with the subject of "UFO" reports and the ETH? Do Tell! It should be good.
RP: "I said that a civilization 30 years more advanced than us would have sufficient capability to identify the spectra of our atmosphere's chemical constituents."
And I explained why "30 years" means absolutely nothing when given the astronomical probabilities of exobiology: the physical rarity of places where life might exist and the radically contingent nature of evolution as exhibited by the one example we know; the vast time and distances between stars, and the impossibility of any of your naive "ET like us" metaphorical reasoning being anything more than a phony pseudoscientific rationale for continued belief in the ETH.
Any miniscule amount of the physical trace of our activity--a mere drop in a cosmic ocean--could hardly be a beacon across light-years to ET. Get it now?
RP: "Third, it is clear from your comments that if you have any science background at all you must have blundered through your studies. Your understanding of chemistry certainly needs some serious work"
There he goes again.... "the same tired [and] cranky dodges and then name-calling that I've heard from "UFO" Believers online for more than twenty years."
Robert, February 19, 2014 at 8:24 PM:
ReplyDelete"For starters I did not address you, I addressed Tim."
Would not e-mail be more suitable as a means for private communication with an individual?
"Second, I never said that an alien civilization 30 years more advanced than us could reach us. I said that a civilization 30 years more advanced than us would have sufficient capability to identify the spectra of our atmosphere's chemical constituents."
Can you point us to a reference, that gives specific and quantitative details in support of this?
"Third, it is clear from your comments that if you have any science background at all you must have blundered through your studies. Your understanding of chemistry certainly needs some serious work."
I hope this is not a case of throwing stones from a glass house.
Robert Powell's standard pseudoscience reminds me of the very same sort of nonsense published by old-time "UFO" Believer and wacko 9/11 conspiracy nut, Jim Deardorff (with fellow Believers: Haisch, Maccabee and Puthoff) in 2005.
ReplyDeleteDeardorff somehow got the crazy idea that cosmic inflation increased the probability of ET visitation and, of course, "UFO" reports just might be those ET visitors to Earth by way of "transversable wormholes" in Spacetime from the far reaches of the Galaxy or other galaxies; or "UFOs" might even be interdimensional entities who evolved in other Universes whose conditions are hospitable to life. Gasp!
Sounds like some very big thinking, huh? Emphasis on "sounds like" since it's all complete and utter BS. Like Powell, Deardorff et al are possessed by the "UFO" myth and delusion, and every bit of mysterious science they encounter becomes fodder for rationalizing their predisposition, their belief in the antiscientific "UFO" delusion. That's the first and standard definition of pseudoscience, assuming the answer (belief in "UFOs"), conclusion as hypothesis (the ETH for "UFO" reports) comes first, followed by every bit of sciency-sounding blabbering they can utilize as rationalizations for their belief in a paranoid, mass media-manufactured and perpetuated popular-culture myth and delusion that only displaces knowledge.
That's not even how the scientific method works, yet all of these people have big science degrees and pretend to be "scientific" in their thinking. Such people are good examples of how it's possible to a "scientist" and still be a "UFO" crackpot.
A knowledgeable person might rightly ask: HTF does cosmic inflation increase the probability of ET visitation when the expansion of the Universe of galaxies is homogenous and increasing, has ZERO effect on the galaxies, which are "island universes" ruled completely by their own gravity. And cosmic inflation only further distances all galaxies, as if it was even relevant to the probability of ET visitation.
If one bothers to look at where Deardorff got such a bizarre notion, you'll find that the cosmologist's paper he cites says nothing of the sort! Deardorff made it up. And Deardorff never explains how it could be in his paper, it's just a catchy title!
Typical crackpot ufoolery.
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ReplyDeleteAs a result of the encounter, he wrote four books with the information they gave him and asked him to write in astounding detail. Those books are self-published on Amazon.com, but are still essentially unknown works. Simply do an author search under R. R. Giroux.
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