Thursday, February 10, 2011

2012: Peter Gersten's "Leap of Faith"

Lawyer Peter Gersten has been a well-known figure in UFOlogy at least since the 1970s. He filed suit against the CIA in U.S. District Court in 1977 for release of documents concerning UFOs. This resulted in over 900 pages of documents being released, although there was little in them that wasn't already known. There were 57 pages that were held back due to "national security" concerns. UFOlogists made a big stink about this, claiming it's proof of a government cover-up. However, the files were held back because they might allow other nations to gain information on U.S. capabilities in electronic and signals intelligence. For example, there was one document where the CIA listened in on a Cuban pilot discussing a UFO sighting. The problem wasn't the UFO sighting, it was that we didn't want the Cubans to know we'd been able to hear their pilots' conversations.

Now retired to Sedona, Arizona, a center of a supposed 'New Age energy vortex',  Gersten says that he plans to take a "leap of faith" from Bell Rock, a well-known vortexy place in Sedona, at the moment of the solstice: 11:11 UT on Dec, 21, 2012. This will be 4:11 AM in Arizona, and according to a reference I checked (http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/seasons.html target=BLANK ), is within 1 minute of the time of the actual solstice.

Gersten writes, "On the Winter Solstice of 2012 at exactly 11:11 UT a cosmic portal will open in Sedona Arizona and a leap of faith - from the top of Bell Rock - will propel me through its opening.... My two principal beliefs are: 1) that our reality is an intelligently designed cosmic holographic program and 2) that on the Winter Solstice of 2012 at exactly 11:11 UT – a Trans-Dimensional Event (T-DE) will occur... an article on my web site discussing the Mayan calendar end-date states that: There is no reason not to take a leap of faith imagining what may be in store (10). So by now you must have an idea of what I plan to do on the Winter Solstice of 2012 at exactly 11:11 while on the top of Bell Rock – a place only a few miles from my home.... Most of you will think that I am delusional and that my insane act will certainly result in my death. Death is inevitable - at least nowadays - and 100 years from now it won't matter whether I died in 2012 or 2013 or even 2020. But I believe that some type of cosmic portal will be opening at that time and place and that an opportunity will present itself. I fully expect that it will either lead to the next level of this cosmic program; freedom from an imprisoning time-loop; a magical Martian-like bubble; or something equally as exotic. In March 2012 I will reach 70 years of age and nine months later we arrive at the cosmic coordinate. I think it will then be time for me to move on - in one form or another. I'd like to see what else our Cosmic Computer has to offer." (http://www.pagenews.info/commentary/wintersolstice2012.php )


When I first read about this, I could not believe that it was true. Perhaps somebody with a grudge against Gersten made this up? Yet in the YouTube video above, we see and hear Gersten telling, in his own words, about his plan to (hopefully) leap into the portal that he believes should be opening up. He explains that, even if he dies in this leap, it is probably good Karma to die at such at the time of such special cosmic energy.

Bell Rock, Sedona, AZ

What Gersten and so many others do not seem to realize is that from an astronomical standpoint, there is nothing special or even a little bit unusual going on in December of 2012. Nada. There will be a Transit of Venus across the Sun on the afternoon of June 5, 2012 (the morning of June 6 in Asia and Australia), which is a really special and rare celestial alignment (the next one won't occur until 2117), but clearly that is not what the hoopla is about. No "alignments" are going to happen around the 2012 winter solstice that do not also happen every other December. Supposed "Bible Codes" and "ancient calendars" simply don't cut it. No matter how many times nonsense is repeated, it still remains nonsense. Echo chambers do not contribute to truth.

I've briefly met Gersten a few times, and he is a pleasant fellow. I hope he is not serious about this, and finds reason to change his mind. If he's in good health at age 70, he can easily live at least another ten or twenty more years. I hope he doesn't give up the rest of his life because of babblings about "ancient calendars" and "trans-dimensional effects."

[For updates on this story, see the posting The Apocalypse Made Easy, November 17, 2012.
Gersten did not jump. He is still alive in 2013. ]

111 comments:

  1. Ten or twenty? Hell, if he's lucky, he's got another fifty years to spread his nonsense.

    I hope he doesn't go through with it; that's a long way to fall when he's wrong.

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    1. another stupid ass tell him to send his money too me before he jumps dick head

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  2. I just hope he doesn't convince anyone else to accompany him, but somehow I fear he may. I think the most tragic thing is that some unfortunate people are going to have the job of cleaning up the mess.

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  3. Bob: Thanks for the attention. I've updated my beliefs and the reasons for them here: http//www.1111invitation2012.info and I encourage you to do the same. And just to be astronomically correct there is a very significant alignment only occurring on December 21, 2012 - and the most likely reason for the Maya recycling their Long Count calendar on that specific day. You can either do a little research or read Monday's entry in my Countdown Journal.

    Kulgur:Have you read my 'nonsense' or are you just basing you opinion on hearsay that justifies your beliefs? But is it worth the fall if I am right? Actually it is a leap of faith and not a 'fall' - just to set the record straight.

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    1. I have been searching for the past half hour * like it really matters how long I've searched for* to find a way to get in contact with Peter G.

      After reading all of this and listening to you I finally feel like i'm not the only one out there who understand this. I have come to understand and witness this in recent years, and have had no one to confide in, to express everything to and to even just bounce things off of.

      Mr. Gersten if you have the time could you please get in contact with me?
      my email is nickstapleton88@gmail.com
      I know you only have so long left here, but before you go will you please help show some light onto the "true reality" that I've had a very difficult time coming to grips with

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    2. No, it's a fall. A long one. You should not do this because it will end your life and your last moments in this world be terror-filled.

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    3. His website has exceeded the bandwidth... disappointing. I wanted to see him fall to his death...

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  4. How long is this portal supposed to be open? How critical is his timing? How big is it and will he be able to see it? I wonder if it has ever occurred to him that he could jump into this portal with a hang glider; or wearing a parachute? Why would it matter any more than if he were wearing clothes? If he misses, or if it doesn't open, he can alway try again some other time. Perhaps these questions are answered in the video, but I have been unable to view it.

    His best option is to scrap the whole loony idea, and maybe when he's up there looking down he'll do that. But why would he not give himself some kind of "safety net" in the event something were to go wrong? Even if some portal miraculously opens, and he hits the bullseye, where is he going to land in his new world? More rocks?

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  5. Sadly, after he strews himself gruesomely about the landscape, some woomeister will stand over the corpse and declare that his "essence" or his "aura" or his "soul" went through the "portal."

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    1. Or some charlatan will claim "I am Gersten reincarnated" or some other claim. "For on $29.99 you can get my exclusive video of what I saw as I plunged thru the portal. Use your credit card and save $5 when you buy in the next 15 minutes."

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  6. Simply amazing. I just hope he does not get a bunch of mindless sheep to follow him like Heaven's gate! Maybe his family (if he has one) will step in and have him psychologically evaluated. I know if my parents (who are in their 80s) attempted something like this, I would try and stop it.

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  7. But isn't the end of 2012 supposed to be total doomsday for us all? Thus he need only wait a further 10 days to be sure of going the way of the rest of the world. As it stands he may only have 10 days of fame. That's not long.

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    1. Yea but he's been recieving information to jump through the portal. He's the profit just donate 50.00 bucks. WHAT A JOKE

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  8. cda,

    Actually, if the Rev. Harold Camping is correct (http://badufos.blogspot.com/2010/12/public-notice-beginning-of-judgment-day.html ), then we won't have to worry about 2012, because The Rapture begins in a little over three months, on May 21. Gersten has already filled in the dates of his birth and his death on his website. However, he didn't take into account the the Second Coming and the Rapture might begin this year, and so he might not even make it to 2012.

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  9. I'm just wondering if Peter Gersten will put sufficient funds in escrow to pay for the cleanup, the autopsy and the coroner's inquest so the taxpayers don't have to foot the bill for his idiocy.

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  10. A possible scenario?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSY4fEEg4j0

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  11. Natural selection at work - the stupid dying off.

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  12. Dude, it's going to be an undignified plummet and ignoble, unredeeming death. Don't do it. You are not going to be the only person in the history of forever who fell (yes, you're going to fall) from that height and didn't splatter. You won't even leave a presentable corpse for your family to show at your funeral.

    If your family is on board with this, you need to get a new family.

    This has all the makings of the worst idea ever.

    RJB

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  13. One can only hope that all of Peter Gersten's cotravellers make the same decision. As a result, the collective IQ of the planet should leap at least 4 or 5 points! :)

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  14. Mr. Sheaffer, Neither you nor the Rev. Camping is likely correct. There is absolutely no credible evidence for either of your belief systems.

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  15. @PAG I'm not saying that you're correct, in fact I think you're completely incorrect and over-credulous.

    But...

    Even if (hypothetically) your idea about the portal were correct...

    How would you know which side of Bell Rock to jump off? It really wouldn't do to jump when the portal is in fact opening on the other side of the rock, would it?

    and

    Why would the portal open at Bell Rock and not Stonehenge, or Easter Island, or Palenque (or any number of other sacred places which are considered by many to be vortex sites)?

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  16. Alignments always happens in december in the winter solstice (it's the alignment of the Earth and Sun with the center of the Milky Way in the constellation of Sagittarius)and never caused any physical change on earth, in the milky way or any other place in the universe. Besides, the Sun and the center of the galaxy will never coincide.
    Where did Peter Gersten get this information that a cosmic portal will appear on december 21st,2012 at exactly 11:11?

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  17. This whole nonsense about 2012 reminds me of the moronic convergence of 1987. BTW the ancient Mayans not only had no idea of what might happen in 2012 they even failed to predict the end of their own civilization. I wonder what the 2012 cult will say when on January 1st, 2013 all the stores have clearance sales of 2012 doomsday merchandise.

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  18. Looks like Whatstheharm.net will have another story to add to their list. How terribly sad for this man to be so delusional. The police and his family should commit him to a mental health facility for treatment, as they would (or should) do with anyone who threatens to take his own life.

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  19. Hey, I've been to Chichen Itza and sure, the Mayan heirarchy knew quite a bit about astronomy but they had kids' toys made with a stick and a wheel, for fuck's sake, and never figured out to use the wheel as a form of transportation. To base your end of the world theories on an ancient civilization that couldn't figure out how to use the wheel- well, as Penn & Teller would say, that's just Bullshit.

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  20. Do it you bastard!!
    Me an my friends are making a roadtrip just to see this.. you better not let us down!

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  21. This guy has lost all common sense and sense of his spiritual life plan from God. Committing suicide is not noble nor is his thinking the world is a hologram - really sad. If he would connect with God, he wouldn't worry about 2012 because it is our spiritual development that is most important not what happens on 2012. He could try to spend every remaining year he had on earth trying to make it a better place and helping his fellow man. Killing himself isn't going to accomplish either. Just sad.

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  22. He's accepting donations to "tie up his affairs" before this momentous occasion.
    That alone tells me the guy is full of crap.
    I truly hope they televise the event so I can watch him plummet to the ground.
    However, I doubt he's gonna do it. Natural instinct will take over at the edge of the rock and he'll opt out. That or before the event he will receive transmissions from the planet Balamalama telling him that the matrix has been reset and he is not the "One" so he'll cancel out.
    This whole thing is total bukkakke anyways.

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  23. Why is it so hard for people in this world to open your Bibles and read Revelations! Anyone who want to know how it's going to end, the true answers are there.No matter what you believe every knee shall bow and know that he is Jesus Christ! Save yourselves call on JESUS! God Bless all the people of our world!

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    1. People have been saying that for 1800 centuries. And yet, the world continues to spin.

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    2. Lmao at all the religious bullshit....not to mention people even commenting on this crap.....baaaaa baaaaaa. Sheep!

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  24. Moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic, moronic.

    Have I made my point?

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  25. I know Peter. Not well but know him nonetheless. Who made all of us the judge and jury of what is right and wrong with a person's personal belief system? Each of us have expressed opinions based on OWN experiences and interpretations of our lives and each of those experiences are naturally going to be different from one person to the next. It is literally impossible for two people to see the same thing even if they see the same thing because of the fact that our personal experiences in life give each of us a different perpectives on what it is that we are seeing. Each of us have the right to believe what ever it is we want to believe, without judgement from others. If this is what is going to make Peter happy or fulfilled in his life, then so be it. It's no one's business but his own. He is not crazy, he does not need an intervention from family members nor does he need to be hospitalized. Instead of judging someone else's personal belief system maybe we should be taking a look at our own. What are our belief systems? They may not be the same as our friends or family's belief systems but does that make them wrong or just different? Where did we learn them? Did someone give them to us or did we set out to search for them ourselves? In our society it is difficult NOT to judge others because this is what we are taught to do. If we were to just accept everyone exactly as they were, what a wonderful place this earth might be.

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    1. He's threatening to kill himself. If you can't see that, well, then there's really no point in arguing.

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    2. What kinda drugs has he taken over the years? Cause I want whatever he's on lol.

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    3. How can jumping to his death make Peter happy or fulfilled in life? Thankfully, his belief system underwent a modification in time.

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  26. Dear Anonymous

    Let's be objective here: if a man you never met in your life claimed that he believes that our reality is a holographic program and that in the winter solstice in dec, 2012 a cosmic portal will open up and he decided to jump from Bell Rock - which is 4816 ft - at 11:11 to enter this portal, you wouldn't find that crazy and this person to be completely delusional?

    If I was friend, relative or even an acquaintance of Peter Gersten I would be worried about his state of mind and for his safety (actually I am worried). But if I knew him in person I would do anything to keep him from hurting himself due this crazyness.

    This is not about not letting people believe in what they want. It's about being reasonable and realize this all new age baloney will put someone's life in danger.

    Did Peter Gersten is so trapped in Lala Land that he didn't realize this taskwork of his will get him killed?

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    1. I know I shouldn't find any of this funny but after watching his videos and reading his messages and others post on the matter I can't stop laughing at how ridiculous and bugged out his mind is. He actually scammed people out of thousands of dollars too I bet with his donations setup he has going. I need to stop laughing so hard lol!

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  27. This is simply such a waste. There will be Darwin Award candidates like him killing themselves all over the world. And why? Because some old Mayan decided to stop carving a rock and go do something else.

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  28. Peter,
    We need to see some scientific evidence. I'm not talking about astronomical guess-work. I'm talking about empirical evidence that any of what you say is remotely possible.
    I do, however, think you are on the right track. The intelligent design by a higher being is indeed true. That being, however, has told us how it will end and no where did it mention jumping througj a hole.
    The world my indeed end Dec 12 2012 but if it does you will be merged with the dirt in Arizona and ill be in the same boat in Texas.
    ...and neither one of us can do a thing about it.

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  29. Congratulations, young man. You are officially the nuttiest man alive. Someone call Guiness.

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  30. The truth is, his ideas aren't really any more bizarre or delusional than those that comprise any other 'religion' or whatever you wanna call 'em.

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  31. Anonymous who post on July 21, 2011 10:05 PM,

    If you claim that the ID by a higher power is indeed true and the world might end in dec 21, 2012, where's your empirical evidence that proves your claims to be correct?

    PS: Please, don't insult/underestimate my intelligence mentioning the bible or some other religious book or making religious preaching and don't mention the mayan prophecy because I've heard them all. I want verifiable and tangible evidence, not faith-based beliefs.

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  32. I forgot about the Darwin Award! Well remembered!

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  33. Michelle, 10:05 here. I'm glad you responded. I mentioned Dec 12 2012 because of this post. No one can predict when the world will end...but the more research I do I find that science points towards a higher being pulling our known universe together. Most scientists will tell you the same. OR, they refuse to believe that idea and are relentless in finding how we emerged from nothing. The more we discover, the more we realize we will never find the "cause" of what most definitely will be an end.
    Big bang, anthropic principles, and entropy all lead to a beginning and end. As an atheist I I didn't want that to be true. However, I see know way around it at this time.

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  34. Michelle, I think you missed the point. Re-read the post.

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  35. Anonymous (July 25, 2011 6:52 PM )

    >> No one can predict when the world will end...
    Actually, we can and we already did. Regardless if mankind and all the other species will exist until then or not; our planet is doomed to end for about 4-5 billion years from now when the sun will begin to die. The sun will expand and will swallow the each planet probably until Mars; it's when the hydrogen reservations will end and the sun will start to consume helium. When the big red ball fase ends, the sun will be very unstable and will lose all his external layers. In 100.000 years the Sun will be a small and hot star claeed the white dwarf. When the helium reservation ends the nuclear reactions will stop for good, the sun won't produce any energy and the sun will get colder until it becomes a black dwarf. Even if earth doesn't wind up beign swallowed by the giant red ball it will be a dead planet because it won't have the sun's energy and heat to keep the planet warm.


    >>But the more research I do I find that science points towards a higher being pulling our known universe together.
    Which evidence is that? If you do have one, you have to bring to the scientific community to be analyzed many times over and over again for a considerable period of time to see if your evidence it will be proved to be correct or not. If your evidence is proved to be correct then it will have publications recognized by the scientific community. Care to try? lol

    >> The more we discover, the more we realize we will never find the "cause" of what most definitely will be an end.
    We can't know what exactly set the Big Bang off (at least yet, maybe we will find out, maybe we won't; who knows right?); all we know about it is that the universe was trapped in a really small place with high temperatures and very unstable energy and that one day expanded at a really high speed which was decreasing with time, the universe began to get colder, the laws which rules the universe originated giving origin to planets, stars, moons, black holes, supernovas, galaxies, etc.

    It can't be proved if some intelligent being originated the universe, the same way it can't be proved otherwise. There's no evidence that proves one way or the other. We may not find answers for everything, but at least we don't put some intelligent designer (which is based on faith only) in the equation. What you're doing here is called "god in the gaps" (we don't how something works or why/how happened, therefore god it) and it's also called the Watchmaker Analogy which states that design implies a designer. This analogy has an important role in natural theology and the "argument from design," where it was used to support arguments for the existence of god and for the intelligent design of the universe.

    PS: you're not an atheist; you are probably a deist (someone who believes in god outside organized religion which viewpoint is that reason and observation of the natural world can determine that the universe is a creation and has a creator)

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  36. " Actually, we can and we already did. Regardless if mankind and all the other species will exist until then or not; our planet is doomed to end for about 4-5 billion years from now when the sun will begin to die. The sun will expand and will swallow the each planet probably until Mars; it's when the hydrogen reservations will end and the sun will start to consume helium. When the big red ball fase ends, the sun will be very unstable and will lose all his external layers. In 100.000 years the Sun will be a small and hot star claeed the white dwarf. When the helium reservation ends the nuclear reactions will stop for good, the sun won't produce any energy and the sun will get colder until it becomes a black dwarf. Even if earth doesn't wind up beign swallowed by the giant red ball it will be a dead planet because it won't have the sun's energy and heat to keep the planet warm. "
    Thank you, Michelle..... Isn't it strange that an ancient book said the same thing you just said? "The elements will melt with a fervent heat". WOW! How did the authors know that with out even primitive technology. It's very intriguing. The "god in the gaps" theory is very easy to agree with isn't it?
    However, the more we discover those gaps begin to close....or, as you might say, the gaps get bigger.
    Of course Im not an atheist. I was. But, I needed answers. Unfortunatly, the answers you and I want will not be found in our lifetime.
    Do you reside in Brazil? I know a few bull riders from down there. Tough people there. Thanks for the conversation and I'm enjoying it.

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  37. Anonymous (July 26, 2011 2:56 PM)

    The bible also says in a lot of passages earth is flat with four corners (a square?!?!); it's sustained by pillars; it doesn't move (unless god gets angry to the point of making the pillars shake) and the sun moves around earth; we both know that's not true, right?

    It's easy to agree with "god in the gaps", but I don't. It's an argument based only on faith/wishful thinking and there's no verifiable, tangible, rock solid evidences to back this up. Not meant to be offensive here (but if I do, I'm sorry in advance) but "god in the gaps argument" is intellectual laziness.

    I'm from Brazil, I don't know any bull riders (I'm not very fond of bull riding).

    You're welcome ;)

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  38. I completely agree that being a " faith- based" Christian seems like a cheap way out. It does seem like laziness but just like many other ideas It's just simply not testable. One theory is just as crazy as the next. That's why i posed the question of whether or not mr gersten had evidence of us living in a holographic world. Maybe he had research I was unaware of. No, doubt however that the design of our universe has many consistensies that coincide with a higher creator. BTW.... I haven't used the "bible" word. Lol!
    Thete were many assumptions made back then when technology was very elementary. Science has shed much light on many things....such as the big bang. I can't wait to see what we discover next.

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  39. Karl,
    Speaking of bizarre and unusual, can you imagine the theory that says the universe came from nothing? Lol... how ridiculous. That goes against the basic laws of scientific thought.

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  40. You know what I hate about Christians? They never think about anyone but themselves. Never helping anyone and are ad immoral as a Muslim terrorist. At least atheist never spend amy time or energy trying to dispute something that has no bearing on their life whatsoever. Atheists do not have close minds.

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  41. @Anonymous (July 27, 2011 9:02 AM)

    >> I haven't used the "bible" word. Lol!
    You didn't use the world "bible" but this sentence "The elements will melt with a fervent heat" is in the bible (2 Peter 3:10).

    The thing is creationism is based on the bible and ID is based on religious beliefs. ID is a way creationists found to make creationism look more scientific in order to gain more followers/believers to their biblical cosmogony and to teach it in public schools. Of course not everyone falls for that crap.

    >> That's why i posed the question of whether or not mr gersten had evidence of us living in a holographic world. Maybe he had research I was unaware of.

    Gerstein's beliefs is based on ancient calendars and new age bullshit. We don't live in a holografic world and it's batshit insane to think/believe we do. And it's more batshit insane to jump from Bell Rock believing a energy vortex to another dimension or something like that will open up, taking the risk of getting killed in the process.

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  42. @Anonymous - July 27, 2011 9:02 AM

    >> I completely agree that being a " faith- based" Christian seems like a cheap way out. It does seem like laziness but just like many other ideas It's just simply not testable.

    To me it's lazyness indeed. Some people think this way as I told you before: "I don't know why/how this happened, so god did it" and that "explanation" is good for them; they don't allow themselves to think any further.

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  43. Yep. That's sad that people think that way. That gives forward and logical thinking Christians a bad name. I am as open minded as anyone and am always looking for answers through science. But you would agree with me that after any debate/ discussion/ argument you and I might have it would end with both of us saying
    " I don't know". As lazy and uneducated as I sound to you, the fact that someone believes we are here to today because of chance and originally from nothing, sounds just as nuts to me. Until science disproves a higher being ill continue to believe in God.....and the great thing is......my faith has no bearing on you or anyone else....I pose no danger to you.......now I can't speak for the other idiots who make claims to be Christian yet allow their actions to show otherwise.

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  44. @Anonymous (August 2, 2011 10:01 AM)

    >> Yep. That's sad that people think that way. That gives forward and logical thinking Christians a bad name.

    This way of thinking gives a bad name for people from other religious beliefs also. Intelectual lazyness and christianity are not mutually exclusive.

    >> I am as open minded as anyone and am always looking for answers through science. But you would agree with me that after any debate/ discussion/ argument you and I might have it would end with both of us saying
    " I don't know".

    But there's nothing wrong at admitting "I don't know" and it's not being intellectually lazy saying we don't know everything. It's quite the opposite; by saying "I don't know" allows us to keep searching for answers. This search is important and enlightening; even though we may not find the answers we are looking for we wind up learning new things and finding other answers for other questions. What gives anyone (no matter what their religious beliefs/ideologies are) a bad name is the certainty some of them have about knowing everything when they know nothing; a good/perfect example for that is Bill O' Reilly (I've never seen someone so intellectually lazy/dishonest as him).

    >> As lazy and uneducated as I sound to you, the fact that someone believes we are here to today because of chance and originally from nothing, sounds just as nuts to me. Until science disproves a higher being ill continue to believe in God.....and the great thing is......my faith has no bearing on you or anyone else....I pose no danger to you.......

    Science can't prove there isn't a higher being the same it can't prove there is. The existence of a higher being who created everything is left to human imagination/wishful thinking only.

    >> Now I can't speak for the other idiots who make claims to be Christian yet allow their actions to show otherwise.
    I know some christians and some people from other religions who are a bunch of hypocrites.

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  45. What a wack job

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  46. Unfortunately, hypocrites are very prevalent. These are people who are "Luke warm". They are a negative to you and me and may in fact be dangerous to us both. Hypocrites sit next to you everyday and spew "faith based" messages while living completely different lives. However, the core of yhose who live christian lives, want nothing more for all to live long healthy lives and when science discovers something new they are in awe just like you and I. It's also unfortunate for Christians to be lumped in with other pantheism, scientology, Muslim, or any other group that don't subscribe to peace, or "the golden rule" or any other doctrine that doesn't treat other humans as they would want to be treated.

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  47. Michelle,
    I also meant to ask if you primarily speak Portuguese?
    Your English is very good.

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  48. Maybe Peter Gersten is on to something being that he has had all these dealings with the government about UFO secrets and coverups they made him an offer he couldn't refuse and are going to help him in some way to keep him quiet and off there backs cause maybe he hit a nerve if you know what I mean and they are going to help him disappear perhaps in a manner of speaking as a reward for his silence you never know we'll have to wait till that special date to find out or maybe we won't ...

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  49. And the 2012 Darwin Award goes to...

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  50. Personally, I think this idea is crazy. I do not rule out the possibility of something happening on 12.21.12 and if it does, I'm going to accept my fate. Until then, I am enjoying my life to the fullest as if then is the end. If it's not, then we can all move on and continue living life to the fullest. Hell, look at the number of lives lost over the years from natural disasters already, plus random shootings, terrorist attacks, accidents, etc... ANYTHING can happen, anywhere, any time. You should live like today is your last... Interested to see what happens with Mr. Gersten, but broadcasting his 'suicide' to the world isn't the best idea. Officials will put a stop to this before it happens. Living in AZ, I will be there to witness first hand no matter what.

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  51. As a bmx'er I've had this reoccuring dream of a reduced gravity day. Maybe I should build the worlds largest jump. Hope your right dude save us all.

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  52. With all the publicity this suicidal lawyer is attracting....you can bet law enforcement will intervene & stop him! And to think he is even asking for donations! Hope no one falls for his financial scheme to get rich!! Don't waste your money people!! Donate what you would to this suicidal person to a homeless shelter near you for people that actually want to live but are having a hard time!!

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  53. Anon-12-19,

    Every emergency services organization (police, fire, etc.) deals with bridge jumpers and other would-be suicides on a regular basis. Given this much advance notice, you can be sure that they will do something to intervene.

    "In Arizona, the government can mandate in-patient treatment for anyone determined to be "persistently or acutely disabled." Virtually anyone who suspects that someone has mental problems and needs help could file an application to a state-licensed healthcare agency for a court-ordered evaluation." (Wikipedia, "Involuntary commitment.") In California, it's called a "5150" - a 72-hour hold for mental health evaluation.

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  54. WOW hey buddy, you better not brainwash and drag anyone else to dive off a rock and splat all over the beautiful arizona desert, Those other people have families and children, you definately need some serious medication,

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  55. I agree with a previous poster that we should have some respect for his beliefs. Human beings should certainly be able to exercise power over their own lives. If he decides it's his destiny to jump off this rock, risking his life, good for him. Everyone employs some sort of construct to give their lives meaning. His just happens to involve throwing himself off a rock. The knee jerk reaction of "institutionalize him!" is much more harmful than his own New Age beliefs. What gives anyone the right to limit another's freedom, isolating them from society and locking them in a building where are they are forcibly drugged? Such an approach is incredibly abusive, dehumanizing, and blatantly undermines perceptual freedom and human creativity. Only in a society that fears and loathes other perceptual possibilities could we have the Baker Act. It should be well within an individual's right to cause harm to himself. Consumption of unhealthy food is entirely legal, while the leading causes of death in the US are heart disease and cancer, which are caused or exacerbated by unhealthy diet.

    Also, I think it's arrogant to say he worthy of a Darwin Award, especially as he already an elderly man-- he has already passed his genes on.

    It's also arrogant to say his beliefs are silly simply because they aren't mainstream. As someone else said, his ideas are no sillier than Christian mythology, but no one is labeled crazy for celebrating Christmas. Just because an idea is supported by the majority doesn't make it more truthful. To each his own, I insist.

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  56. I've received a "download"....it says that on 12/20/12 you're going to get a download that says "SIKE!!!"

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  57. Why didn't you keep this to yourself, and for what reason do you want all the attention?

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  58. Wow I hope he does it and painfully survives the fall!! This is silly but to each his own I guess

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  59. A batshit crazy UFO lawyer is going to jump off a big red rock to his death because he believes a magic universal portal will open and he will be transported to a new dimension. 11:11 is just a number. You get to see it 2 times a day every day. Of course there will be times where it coincidentally coincides with an event at that given time. But that is all it is. When this guy jumps and dies, will there be a reserve jumper ready at 12:12? I feel bad for this guy's family and ancestors, he does all their sacrifices and accomplishments a huge dishonor by doing something so unbelievably stupid. Generations of of this guys family endured life before him just so he can foolishly throw his away. I think he owes them more then that even if he doesn't agree, to live his life as long as possible and let the cards fall wear they may. Forcing death/suicide is selfish as all hell. I had a very good friend take his life and it destroyed his family. This guy is selfish and pardon the pun but he needs a BIG "reality" check.

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  60. Ye of little faith. By the way, I'm not a brainwashed christian.

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  61. I am Mishelle. I do not have google accounts or any of that other stuff. I am sad that a man that is a leader has such an outlandish idea. I am afraid for the people that will follow him and start jumping. If everyone would have jumped at Y2K they would have missed 11 years of life. Asking for money in a time when people are afraid of their future is greedy. I have been seeing all of the stories about the end coming in Dec. and how the planets are going to line up. If it truely is the end of the earth then it is meant to be. A man jumping off a cliff is not going to change the line up of planets nor am I putting my faith in him to save me. Don't jump on my account.

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  62. According to Nostradamus, after a 27-year war between Christian and Muslim, where the Christians will win, (about 2025), there is supposed to be an extended period of peace until the end of the world as we know it, in 3500 AD - we orbit an old sun....

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    1. We orbit a middle-aged sun. With about 6 billion more years on the warranty.

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  63. I'm coming with him but with a pairichuting down right along with him if the portal does apear me and him will have many days to talk about consperiusy theories

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  64. Dear Mr.Peter Gersten

    I listened to your "spill", and this little dog and pony show will only end in a crushing and sudden stop. There will be no Neo or Morpheus to great you with a colored little pill, YOU WILL DIE . i say go for it the only nutters i can tolerate are the republican pres. hopefuls. Nose dive it so i can get a great polaroid to show my kids and tell the story of how an attorney made a bad joke reality. "WHAT DO YOU CALL A GOOD START?" A NEVER ENDING LINE OF ATTORNEYS JUMPING OF A CLIFF. This situation is possibly the most asinine thing I have had the pleasure of coming up on in the last week, for that I thank you. You can rest assured my nephew and I will be there standing at the bottom of Bell Rock waiting for this amazing display of jack assery. Hopefully this fellow will go through with this otherwise I'm out ten bucks, so Peter come on? I mean come on?
    9-11 was not our government.
    Fidel Castro is not a CIA operative.
    NASA cannot manipulate the weather.
    Oswald did it.
    Marilyn Monroe was a drug overdose.
    No such thing as illuminati.
    No such thing as Bilderberg meetings for NWO.
    No Bigfoot.
    Fluoride IS good for your teeth.
    Alex Jones didn't get enough attention as a child.
    Jesse Ventura is trying to stay relevant.
    Sugeknight did it.
    Obama is not a reptile, he is just black.
    Roswell was a weather balloon.
    And yes, space travel is impossible.
    Life is what we make of it, if quantum physics tells us anything.
    Love, your friend Rydian.

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      You sir are a complete idiot! Probably the dumbest post on this entire site. Congratulations on being a compete *%&#@ moron.

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  65. His beliefs are no more ludicrous than many belief systems we hear about on a daily basis, but that's exactly it. We hear about many Religions and their beliefs every day, and so we've grown desensitized to the sheer madness of it all. Is believing we're in a Matrix spin-off really crazier than denying the legitimacy of Carbon-dating? Or believing that 6,000 species of reptiles, 9,000 birds, 1,000 amphibians, and 15,000 species of mammals plus one-million species of insects( Another million estimated to be discovered) fit on a single ship while the entire earth was flooded without their natural food sources to keep them alive?


    I mean, think people. This kind of stuff has been going on forever. Religion, I mean. I'm sure someone is going to point out the fact that what Mr. Gersten believes isn't necessarily a religion, but that's really irrelevant. My point is actually this, though I do not believe as he believes, I believe that Mr. Gersten has as much right to believe what he does as any believer in any religion.

    That's not to say that I condone this sort of human wastefulness. I honestly wish we could 'get past' religion, as it only slows down the progress of the race as a whole...

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  66. I am guessing that the day before the Winter Solistice, he gets abducted by aliens and - equally as mysterious - his PayPal account gets liquidated. DOnt' Forget to GIVE to support the mission ! And in a related story... Hell Froze over. Stupid should be Painful !

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  67. hahaha just do it man its all good in the hood

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  68. cesar created the "leap year" in 45 BC, the mayans never accounted for the leap year, had cesar not created it, it would more or less already be july 14th 2013, over 500 days have been created from the leap years, the mayans were long before cesar, so they didnt account for it.

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  69. I remember when you Peter told me to read the Holographic Universe back in the 1999? I bought the book and, told you I couldn't understand it? Now, years later I understand more about the universe and different dimensions. Please read my post and, take someone else's advice for a change?
    I am not going to waste my life waiting for something to happen. It is just another Y2K. The earth is changing all the time. The earthquakes are getting bigger so are floods, new and old viruses.
    And, there is new technology to fight cancer everyday. Peter, stop looking for answers and choose life.
    Love, and hope to you,
    From an old friend who grew up.
    Please forget the Buddhist, have any of them proved to you, that they are a reincarnation of anyone specifically? Go to my youtube channel adnetjm please. I'm not trying to get hits. And, I'm not selling anything.

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  70. I think that this is no worse than Heaven's Gate...thinking that you're going to travel to another dimension or end up on a mothership...by swallowing poison or jumping into a so-called "vortex"...when all you're going to do...is end up dying.

    I can't believe that smart people are still being led, blindly, by their beliefs...and risking their lives doing it.

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  71. nike says just do it. but then queen said another one bites the dust. you sound like a nike guy to me and they did make m Jordon fly. you should also borrow that acme parachute from wiley coyote you know the one with anvil in it.

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  72. I hope that everyone that believes this crap jumps with him and rids the world of all idiots. But leave some money first...LOL

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  73. Can you say the word SCAM!
    He will never have th balls to jump

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  74. So far, the only update from Gersten is this on Jan. 26: "Today I was diagnosed with an unusual form of cancer. An ironic start to 2012 for me don’t you think? I assume my programming is ensuring that I complete my leap of faith. Bring it on!" Here is his Blog: http://www.1111invitation2012.info/1111Invitation2012/Countdown_Journal/Countdown_Journal.html

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    1. must not believe in jesus....our lord and savior. This is a mistake please do not do this. I will pray for your cancer recovery. Be well

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  75. I spent this weekend hiking with Peter and would like to clear up a few misconceptions people seem to have.

    First, Peter has never said anything about jumping OFF of Bell Rock. He has stated "A Leap of Faith" will propel him through an inter-dimensional portal. His belief in a portal on Bell Rock differs from thousands of other pilgrims only in his timing. Every day there are people visiting Bell Rock to experience the unique energy found there. Many leave disappointed while others swear to extra-dimensional experiences, including teleportation and visitations with angels or other "beings of light". There are not enough institutions to hold all of those who have claimed to have a "religious experience" in my 30+ years living near Bell Rock.

    Secondly, he has NEVER asked for donations for his Bell Rock adventure. The only donations he ever asked for were to fund Freedom of Information requests by CAUS (Citizens Against UFO Secrecy). He is not a "UFO nut", He was a Public Defender in Navajo County, AZ until his recent retirement and still assists them 2 days a week. There are plenty of "officials" who will vouch for his sanity along with close friends and family who know he is not suicidal.

    A "Leap of Faith" should not be construed a jump to his death.

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    2. Suicide will put you in hell foe all eternity. Dont go through that portal Peter you talk about your children and grandchildren. Well guess what if you kill yourself you will never see them again in heaven believe in Jesus. Tell the world you found Jesus and dont do it.
      All my best
      Annonymous

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    3. Spence

      Jesus died milleniuns ago, god probably doesn't exist...so as hell and heaven.

      If he jumps from that cliff, he will fall, hit the ground and die. That's all. It will be a terrible way to die and I sincerely hope he gives up that nonsense. Not because he's going to hell or any imaginary bad place or to guarantee a place in heaven or any other imaginary good place, but because to keep on living for the sake of his family and his own.

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  76. @ 1:10 "I don't think you go... uh... get out of the solar system, travel out of the solar system in any physical object". This is contradicted by the Pioneer probes which both have exited the solar system.

    @ 2:40 he says "... the third possibility, besides me crashing to my death ..." contradicts what "Bell Rock 2012" has said. If he's not jumping off of Bell Rock, why would he 'crash to his death'?

    Oh, and by the way, the moment of the winter solstice is at 11:11:37.4. If his 'leap' occurs at 11:11 UT then he'd be 37 seconds early. If he falls 100 feet, he's got about 2.5 seconds. If he falls 250 feet, he's got about 4 seconds.

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  77. Wtf? Let him jump. Then there will be one less idiot in this world. I visited his website but still can't figure out where this kook got his whacky ideas.

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  78. Peter, don't do it.

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  79. Anonymous is the only way I was able to publish this sorry!!
    If all your gonna do is go up to the top and chill out to see what happens...cool, but please don't jump or propell or throw yourself off!!:)

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  80. You should really put a big net out there or just look before you leap if you don't see anything don't do it!

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  82. Wow! Just when you thought you have seen it all! Cocaine is a hell of a drug..

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  83. Will there be a video feed anywhere?

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  84. He is suppose to jump at 4:11 pm est but you guys are getting your hopes up for nothing he is not going to do it. He received a crap load of donations gained a ton of media exposure and supporters but it was all a scam. He really believes in what he speaks but he used it to draw you all in and gain exposure for his point of views. He already started removing his YouTube videos regarding 11:11 and who ever actually donated money too him should demand a refund.

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    1. "Peter Gersten says he's taking a "Leap of Faith" on top of Bell Rock near Sedona today, but that doesn't mean he's literally jumping off the prominent 547-foot-tall red butte in northeast Yavapai County.

      "I don't think it's going to involve risking my life," he said. "The Leap of Faith was bringing 120 people to the top of Bell Rock without knowing why." He said he felt like he needed to bring at least 111 people to the top of Bell Rock over the last several months to prepare for today."

      http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=114178

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  85. Another nutbag giving anyone interested in alternative 'truth' a bad name, and giving the media more ammunition to paint us all with the same brush. Why is it these idiots are ALWAYS Americans? And people donated money to him?!?! wtf where does the stupidity end?

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